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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Grand Forks ND 
959 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Update... 
issued at 959 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 
fog loop/surface observation indicated forecast area was mostly clear. 
Patchy middle clouds were over Becker, Otter Tail and Hubbard counties. 
Another patch was west of the Red River in northeast ND. Thin cirrus 
was moving in from the west. Middle clouds were moving southwest 25 to 
30 knots. 


Surface high pressure was located from central Canada into central 
ND and will continue to build into the area overnight. No change to 
low temperature from previous discussion. 




Update issued at 659 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Upper level low that has plagued the area the last few days was 
located over the eastern Minnesota/Iowa border. Upper low forecast to move 
east. Another upper level trough was over western Ontario and 
extended into Hudson Bay. Some drying/darkening was noted on the 
water vapor loop over the area. Also weak cold front was located 
over the northern valley. Surface winds still gusting Post frontal. 


Tweaked low for tonight...a degree or so lower east and a degree oe 
two higher elsewhere. 


&& 


Short term...(this evening through Thursday night) 
issued at 332 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


With no additional rainfall expected through Thursday...primary 
forecast challenge will be temperatures. GFS/NAM/ECMWF/Gem are in 
good agreement and will use a blended solution. 


20 UTC satellite imagery shows low stratus/stratocu along and 
south of a line from Lisbon to Park Rapids. Skies will become 
mostly clear overnight as surface high pressure builds across the 
region...allowing temperatures to drop into the upper 30s to low 
40s. With clear skies and some low-level cold air advection across 
northwest and north central Minnesota overnight...will need to watch how 
low into the 30s temperatures drop. Current dew points across 
northwest Minnesota are as low as 34 degrees...so Don/T think air 
temperatures will fall much further. 


Thursday will be sunny and dry with the surface ridge axis along 
the valley floor by 18 UTC. Boundary layer temperatures will be 
near or a few degrees cooler than today...so despite abundant 
sunshine...expect daytime highs only in the 60s. Mostly clear 
skies will continue Thursday night with temperatures similar to 
tonight...from the upper 30s to middle 40s. 


Long term...(friday through wednesday) 
issued at 332 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Precipitation chances increase Friday afternoon and evening from 
the west as a middle-level warm front begins to slide across the 
Dakotas. Isentropic lift along the 300 k surface and precipitable 
water near one inch will result in some showers and perhaps a few 
thunderstorms. Not much upper level support and most instability 
remains across the western Dakotas into eastern Montana...but will 
maintain isolated thunder mention. Still some precipitation 
coverage and timing uncertainty...so will keep probability of precipitation in the high 
chance category...likely to be raised to 60 percent or higher 
when better confidence is achieved. 


Some lingering showers and thunderstorms will continue into 
Saturday...but does not appear at this time to be an all day wash 
out. Despite warm air advection aloft...the boundary layer remains 
cool with surface temperatures Friday and especially Saturday 
below seasonal normals with highs in the 60s and lows in the 40s 
to lower 50s. 


Forecast challenge Saturday night through Wednesday will be rain shower/T 
chances. Models in reasonable agreement through the long range. 
Middle level ridge axis to gradually shift east putting forecast area in 
increasing SW flow aloft by first half of next week. For most of 
the weekend low level forcing and moisture axis remains across 
western and central ND so question will be how far east convection 
gets after diurnal initiation. Better chances for precipitation next week 
as low pressure and above forcing and moisture gradually shifts 
east. Temperatures likely to hold at or a little below average 
through the Holiday weekend then moderating to at or above average 
to start work week. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 00z tafs through 00z Thursday evening) 
issued at 659 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Visible loop indicated scattered to broken cloud deck over the northern half 
of the forecast area and was moving to the south at about 20 knots. 
Also weak cold front was moving through the area. So will keep winds 
up for the next couple hours. Otherwise a clear sky is expected over 
night and winds will subside. 




&& 


Hydrology... 
issued at 959 PM CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


River flood warnings remain in effect at Walhalla and Neche along 
the Pembina river...with Walhalla having crested and falling...and 
Neche now cresting. 


The Park River at Grafton is expected to crest near the record of 
16.5 feet tonight or Thursday morning. 


There are also a few river points within the area that are expected 
to reach minor flood stage. 


Areal flood warnings remain in effect for Pembina...eastern 
Cavalier...and Walsh counties. The main surge of water is now into 
central Pembina and Walsh counties...and will continue to move 
toward the Red River. Water levels across this area should gradually 
decrease over the next few days with little additional rainfall 
anticipated. 


A Flash Flood Watch remains in effect through Friday afternoon for 
areas downstream of the Renwick dam on The Tongue river. Water 
remains very high at the dam site and is being held back by a 
constructed earthen levee on top of the dam structure. Also... 
officials are continuing to monitor several retention dams to the 
west of Renwick dam. At this time...officials note the temporary 
levee on top of the Renwick dam appears to be stable and will be 
continually monitored. Lake Renwick has slowly receded over the past 
few hours. Water has stopped flowing over the emergency spillways at 
most of the retention dams west of the Renwick dam. However...the 
threat remains and failure would mean major flooding would be 
imminent for the cities of Akra...Cavalier...and Bathgate. 


&& 


Fgf watches/warnings/advisories... 
ND...Flash Flood Watch through Friday afternoon for ndz008. 


Minnesota...none. 
&& 


$$ 


Update...hoppes 
short term...Rogers 
long term...Rogers/voelker 
aviation...hoppes 
hydrology...tg