Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Glasgow Montana 
553 am MDT Monday may 20 2013 


Short term...for northeast Montana...today through Wednesday... 
6am update...the western push of rain looks to fall short of 
Glasgow therefore backed down the 100 probability of precipitation. Proton 


Today and tonight...a vertically stacked low pressure system 
situated over the Dakotas will continue to sit and spin. As it 
does...a shield of stratiform rain will continue to retrograde 
from east to west though the day...before crashing back to the 
southeast this afternoon and evening as the low begins to 
translate eastward. Determining the maximum extent of the back 
edge of the rainfall shield will continue to be the main forecast 
challenge. 


The latest NAM had the precipitation initialized a bit further to 
the east than radar observations showed. Thus...feel the 
precipitation shield should make it a bit further than this 
solution is suggesting. The 00z European model (ecmwf) and GFS have a little better 
handle on it. Will admit that the hrrr has been an impressive 
informer as it caught onto the idea that the shield would stop 
retrograding for a few hours overnight before again proceeding its 
March further west toward morning and this is what is occurring. 
Lending further support to the guidance is the observation of 
recent pressure falls across the County Warning Area. Pressures are generally 
falling between 0.5 and 1 mb per hour for the last few hours. 
Therefore...will feel comfortable with a blend of the 
European model (ecmwf)/GFS/hrrr model solutions for determining a best guess as to 
where the back edge will reach before it begins to push back to 
the southeast. This brings it to a line from about Opheim...extending 
south through just west of Glasgow...to The Jordan area. To the 
east of this line...there is a decent chance at a nice wetting 
rain through tonight. In fact...would not be surprised if some 
areas see one to two inches of rainfall accumulation by the end of 
tonight and included a mention of heavy rain in some of the 
eastern zones through the morning. To the west of this line...rain 
chances will only be showery in nature with a few hundredths of an 
inch of accumulation the absolute most that would occur. Precise 
rainfall amounts will depend upon the precise location of where 
the back edge of this rain shield winds up...as well as some finer 
mesoscale details that are difficult to determine with much 
confidence. Temperatures are kept around or just below seasonal 
normals due to the presence of the lingering upper trough. 


The other concern today will be strong gusty winds due to a sharp 
pressure gradient in association with the surface low across the 
Dakotas. Am expecting that the tight packing of the isobars could 
support northerly winds on the order of 20 to 30 miles per hour with some 
gusts exceeding 40 miles per hour this afternoon and evening. Will hoist a 
lake Wind Advisory from noon until 9pm due to this concern. This 
may also lead to wind driven rains in some locations which could 
pose as hazards to travelers and pedestrians alike. 


Tonight through Wednesday...the low pressure system over the 
Dakotas very gradually translates eastward...so continued to trend 
probability of precipitation down and have precipitation shutting off from west to east. 
Will leave only a slight chance of rain showers in the extreme southeast 
zones by late Tuesday night. On Wednesday...another upper trough 
with closed low moves into the Pacific northwest as it does 
so...diffluent southwest flow aloft is expected to develop across 
the County Warning Area. This may lead to convective showers on Wednesday...mainly 
across the SW zones. Some of the soundings in the NAM BUFKIT just 
west of the County Warning Area are showing total totals approaching 50 and Li 
becoming negative. Did not insert a mention of thunder just yet due to the 
fact that the primary focus was on the current rainfall situation 
and lake wind potential. However...future shifts may want to 
evaluate the potential for any convective initiation toward the 
middle of the week. Maliawco 




Long term...Wednesday night through Monday... 
the extended features more southwest flow through the period. Most 
days slight chances of thunderstorms sliding off the central 
Montana Mountains into the plains for higher probability of precipitation west and low 
probability of precipitation east. For the weekend the upper low breaks a good wave off 
and drives it through northeast Montana for a better chance of 
thunderstorms therefore bumped up probability of precipitation a tad for those periods. 


Temperatures will hold in near normal through the period. 


Model trends are showing lowering heights on the GFS for northeast 
Montana which leads to the upper low moving towards the east. If 
the trend continues then likely probability of precipitation are a good bet for the 
weekend with elevated confidence. Rmop/ensembles are showing that 
its a good bet that at some point this upcoming weekend for a 
strong thunderstorm event across eastern Montana. Proton 


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Aviation... 
MVFR for the eastern areas including ksdy and kgdv through the 
period as they are closer to the low over southeastern North 
Dakota which is wrapping around moisture into the lower Yellowstone 
River Valley. This trend looks to continue through the period. 


VFR for western areas including kggw and kolf through the period 
as the MVFR ceiling shield looks to stay just off to the east. For 
now will stay with VFR ceilings. 


Wind will be more of an issue for the eastern sites with the winds 
staying up above 20 knots through the end of the taf period. Proton 


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Hydrology... 
the next couple of days will continue to be very wet as northeast 
Montana remains under the influence of a large upper trough and 
vertically stacked low pressure system situated across the 
Dakotas. A large area of stratiform rain will affect especially eastern 
areas of the forecast area. Some locations could pick up between 
one and two inches of rainfall by Tuesday morning...especially in 
eastern Roosevelt and Richland counties where the steadiest rain 
is expected. 


Most of the basins in northeast Montana will be able to 
accommodate this amount of moisture. However there is some 
concern for rapidly rising streams...field flooding and localized 
flooding in towns as the event persists. Some minor flooding may 
become an issue...especially for the areas from Wolf Point to 
Circle and eastward into North Dakota where the potential for rain 
is the highest. 




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Glasgow watches/warnings/advisories... 
lake Wind Advisory from noon today to 9 PM MDT this evening for 
central and southeast Phillips...central and southern valley... 
Garfield...McCone...Petroleum. 


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