Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Milwaukee/Sullivan WI 
316 am CDT Thursday Jun 20 2013 


Today and tonight...forecast confidence is medium. 


We have heat and moisture returning to the area today...and there 
appears to be some middle level altocumulus castellanus developing on satellite early 
this morning confirming this is happening. Some Storm Prediction Center short range 
hi resolution models want to try and develop some of this altocumulus castellanus 
into showers or a thunderstorm today. But...the bulk of the 
forcing with the warm air advection will stay west and north of 
the County Warning Area through tonight. Just can/T see enough support in the way 
of triggers and forcing across the area to justify precipitation over 
most of the area today...and even tonight. 


The surface ridge will be trying to hold on across the east while the 
surface low is way out in the High Plains. Typically...any 
activity would be held closer to the 800 mb jet and moisture axis. The 
hires arw and nmm models are basically dry now through 12z 
Friday...as well as the Canadian and European model (ecmwf) models. The NAM and GFS 
want generate precipitation this afternoon...but this is most likely due 
to the poor handling of the surface dew points which look too high. The 
GFS has surface dew points climbing into the lower 70s this 
afternoon...when lower 60s is probably more likely. 


So will limit any precipitation chances to the western County Warning Area late this 
afternoon into tonight...and keep the eastern 1/3 to 1/2 dry. 


925mb temperatures support highs in the lower to middle 80s...though a 
southeast wind will keep it cooler near Lake Michigan...especially 
up toward the Sheboygan area. Temperatures won't fall very hard tonight 
with the warm air pushing in. 


Friday through Saturday night...forecast confidence is medium. 


Short term models show gradual southwesterly 850mb warm air 
advection and moisture advection into the region during this 
period. The NAM and GFS keep the surface warm front north of the 
area. The Canadian and European model (ecmwf) try to sag the warm front south into 
the area Saturday into Saturday night. 


The 850mb low level jet points mainly north of the area 
Friday...but tries to focus more over southern/southwestern 
Wisconsin Friday night into Saturday...mainly on the NAM/ECMWF. It 
then points more to the northwest Saturday night. Tail end of 
500mb vorticity maximum does shift east across the area 
Friday...with more of these features passing northeastward through 
the area at times Saturday into Saturday night. 


Feel best chances for showers and storms will be later Friday 
night into Saturday morning...with possible mesoscale convective 
system fed by 850mb low level jet clipping the northern counties. 
Otherwise...probability of precipitation will be more Chancy Friday and Saturday 
night...as best upward vertical motion with warm front and low 
level jet will be north of the area. Much of this period could 
end up dry. If convection does occur...risk for heavy rainfall and 
some large hail is there...with good amount of elevated cape and 
high precipitable water values. 


Thus...have highest probability of precipitation later Friday night into Saturday morning 
across the northern counties. Chance probability of precipitation continue elsewhere for 
this period. South winds will usher a warm and humid airmass into 
the region during this time...with some highs approaching 
90...especially if convection does not occur and more sunshine is 
observed. 


Sunday through Wednesday...forecast confidence is medium. 


GFS/European model (ecmwf) continue to show some differences with features during 
this period. Southwest flow at 500mb becomes more zonal Sunday 
into Tuesday...with various vorticity maxima moving through the 
region. Surface warm front does remain north of the area Sunday 
into Tuesday as well. Southwesterly flow in the low levels will 
continue to bring a warm and humid airmass into the region. 


Timing and placement of quantitative precipitation forecast differs between the GFS and European model (ecmwf). 
Again...some or most of this period could end up dry...with the 
front north of the area. Main trigger would likely be any low 
level jet nose interaction with the moist and unstable airmass. 
Heavy rainfall would remain possible with higher end precipitable 
water values. Used consensus probability of precipitation and temperatures for Sunday into 
Tuesday. 


More differences occur Tuesday night into Wednesday with timing 
and placement of features between the GFS and European model (ecmwf). For 
now...will continue use of consensus probability of precipitation and temperatures through 
Wednesday. 


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Aviation/12z tafs/... 


VFR conditions expected through the period. Any thunderstorm 
activity will be limited to the kmsn taf and that is a pretty 
small chance beginning about 03z Friday and continuing into 
Friday. Winds will be less than 10 knots. 


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Mkx watches/warnings/advisories... 
WI...none. 
Lm...none. 
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Today/tonight and aviation/marine...Davis 
Friday through Wednesday...wood