Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Marquette Michigan 1209 am EDT Thursday Jun 20 2013 Short term...(this evening through thursday) issued at 429 PM EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 WV imagery and RUC analysis indicated west-northwest middle/upper level flow through then northern Great Lakes between a trough over eastern Canada and a ridge over the plains. Scattered rain showers and isolated thunderstorms and rain had developed near cyrl on the tail of a shortwave trough through northwest Ontario. An upstream shortwave was also located over eastern South Dakota. At the surface...srly winds had increased between high pressure over the eastern Great Lakes and a trough extending into ND from low pressure west of James Bay. Low level moisture was only slowly increasing with dewpoints climbing to near 50f over the west. Tonight...even though the forcing with the northwest Ontario shortwave will remain north of the County Warning Area...models suggest that the rain showers and possibly some thunderstorms and rain will develop later this evening northwest of Lake Superior and slide into the western County Warning Area overnight. Moisture transport and the position of the 850-700 mb frontal zone favors greater precipitation chances/coverage over Northwest Lake Superior into mainly the northwest County Warning Area. MUCAPE values are expected to be high enough for elevated thunderstorms and rain development. Thursday...the combination of increasing moisture transport...daytime heating and the South Dakota shortwave should bring increasing rain showers/thunderstorms and rain coverage across the County Warning Area. Although instability will be marginal for stronger storms with MLCAPE values into the 500-1000 j/kg range...and a relatively Narrow Cape profile....some storms with small hail and gusty winds to 35 miles per hour may be possible. Long term...(thursday night through wednesday) issued at 429 PM EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 Convection will make for a very tricky and uncertain forecast Thursday night through at least the weekend. An upper ridge will move east into the area Thursday night through the middle of next week. At the surface...a weak low will remain fairly stationary over the central and northern plains...leaving a warm front across or near the County Warning Area through this weekend. Confidence is very low /as with most convective situations/ with the exact track/timing of any convective complexes moving along or near the warm front. Models show multiple scenarios for convective development and movement...including moving the warm front north of the County Warning Area keeping the bulk of convection north of the County Warning Area...to having the warm front stall S of the County Warning Area which would keep most of the convection S. Overall...the bulk of the models show convective complexes moving over the County Warning Area...so will continue to put that into the forecast as has been done by previous shifts. Some of the thunderstorms could very well be strong with large hail and damaging winds the primary threats...but confidence is still too low to incorporate that into the forecast but will continue some mention of stronger storms in the severe weather potential statement. Storm Prediction Center has areas along the border under a slight right...and generally agree with that given the location of the greatest instability. Models show up to 4500j/kg /GFS/ of SBCAPE nosing into western Upper Michigan Friday afternoon...but that is the highest amount and looks like low levels are overly moist in the model. The NAM is another model that seems too high on low level moisture and SBCAPE at up to 3500j/kg on Friday. European model (ecmwf) and Gem seem more reasonable at 1000-1500j/kg along the WI border so will favor that solution. Could have daytime convection break out over western and central Upper Michigan...but most likely scenario at this point continues to be convection forming upstream and moving to the east-southeast along the forward propagating corfidi vectors and instability gradient Friday. Another risk factor will be heavy rain with any thunderstorms as precipitable waters will be 150-200 percent of normal. Sat and sun look similar to Friday...with similar uncertainty due to convective uncertainty. In fact...similar conditions should be observed into the middle of next week...but confidence increases too much Monday-Wednesday to talk too much about this time frame. Looking at temperatures...should see surface temperatures increase slightly from day to day through the forecast peroid with highs in the 80s across a large part of Upper Michigan by sun. && Aviation...(for the 06z tafs through 06z Thursday night) issued at 1209 am EDT Thursday Jun 20 2013 Overnight...attention turns to surface trough dropping S toward the upper lakes in association with shortwave currently passing through northern Ontario. Scattered rain showers and diminishing thunderstorms and rain have been occurring along/ahead of trough...and some of those rain showers will hold together and affect kcmx overnight and then possibly kiwd/ksaw this morning. Confidence in rain showers occurring at kiwd/ksaw is lower than at kcmx...so only vcsh was utilized at those 2 terminals. Despite -shra...initial drier air at the low-levels should result in VFR conditions into the morning. However...will need to watch kcmx as any upslope wind off the lake could result in lower clouds/fog possibly forming this morning. This afternoon...daytime heating should generate scattered rain showers/thunderstorms and rain across Upper Michigan with better potential at kiwd/ksaw. There is limited confidence in precipitation actually occurring at a terminal...so only thunderstorms in the vicinity was included in forecast. If rain showers/thunderstorms and rain occur at kiwd/ksaw...MVFR conditions would likely accompany precipitation. Scattered convection should end by evening. During the evening...combination of a cool easterly upslope wind off the lake into higher dewpoint air over the Keweenaw may result in fog/stratus developing at kcmx. && Marine...(for the 4 PM Lake Superior forecast issuance) issued at 429 PM EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 Winds should remain below 25kts through the period...with relatively low waves. The main hazard will be stronger winds/hail/lightning with any thunderstorms moving across Lake Superior from late tonight through into early next week. Areas of fog that develop as a result of increased moisture and shower activity may also become locally dense. && MQT watches/warnings/advisories... Upper Michigan... none. Lake Superior... none. Lake Michigan... none. && $$ Short term...jlb long term...Titus aviation...rolfson marine...jlb