Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Marquette Michigan 736 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 Short term...(today and tonight) issued at 521 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 Dry air will be slowly edging southeast across Lake Superior and Upper Michigan over the next 24 hours. Taking a look at the 00z sounds from cwpl and kgrb...they were of very different airmasses. The larger weather pattern looks like this...a large 500mb ridge stretching from central Canada through east Montana a and into Colorado...with a north stream low set up over eastern Hudson Bay and north Quebec...and the nearly steady state 500mb low spinning across S Minnesota and Iowa. The large surface low stretching from Iowa through Illinois/Lake Michigan/lower Michigan and Lake Huron will continue to slowly push eastward. The axis of stronger fgen has been productive in producing a few showers...but with not much amplification. As a result...slightly lower precipitation amounts were needed through at least the morning hours. As this area shifts southeast during the day today through tonight. At this point...the best chance of accumulating precipitation at or above a tenth of an inch will fall over the far west this morning...and then sink to S central Upper Michigan this evening. With the favorable NE upslope winds just above the surface...could not rule out some lake enhanced showers or drizzle over north central Upper Michigan 00-06z Thursday. Fog will be the main threat...slowly diminishing north to S as drier air works in. Expect dew points in the 40s to middle 50s this morning to fall into the 30s northwest to southeast tonight. While the surface low will shift from lower Michigan through the lower Great Lakes tonight...its influence on our weather will remain. The strengthening pressure gradient between the exiting low and nearing high from northern Canada will result in increasing NE-north-northeast winds to the region...with gusts 20-25kts over all but far west Upper Michigan overnight. 850mb temperatures will fall to -1 to 3c /lowest west/ by daybreak Thursday...with surface temperatures under diminishing cloud cover...falling into the upper 30s west and central. We Haven/T seen lows in the 30s for much of the County Warning Area in approx 5 days...so it will be a bit of a change. Long term...(thursday through tuesday) issued at 407 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 A closed 500 mb low will be in the Pacific northwest with a trough over the Great Lakes region and a ridge across the plains 12z Thursday. Pattern changes little this forecast period with the trough over the Great Lakes moving to the eastern U.S. 12z Sat and the ridge staying put in the plains. Looks dry for this forecast period with cold temperatures. There will be some frost for Thursday night and Friday night and put it in the weather grids to help with the fire weather forecast. The frost/freeze season starts after Memorial Day...but will mention this in the severe weather potential statement product. With the ridge nearby and very dry and cold air...good radiational cooling conditions will set up and went with the coldest guidance I could find for low temperatures which was the adjmet and made a few adjustments for colder spots. Highs on Thursday will struggle to get to the middle 50s. For Friday...went colder for highs as well with a colder start in the morning and 850 mb temperatures warming only to 4c. Mixing this down to the surface would give ME highs around 60 at best. The temperatures were the main thing that I adjusted for this forecast with a slightly colder forecast. In the extended...European model (ecmwf) and GFS show a 500 mb ridge across the plains with troughing in the Pacific northwest and in New England 12z Sat. Pattern changes very little 12z sun through 12z Tuesday. Will be fairly dry this forecast period and quiet with colder than normal temperatures with a slow warming trend through the period. There is a slight chance for precipitation Monday night and Tuesday with a warm front setting up to the south...but not real impressed with seeing much rain out of this for now. && Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Thursday morning) issued at 736 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 Expect -shra/-dz at times...especially at kiwd/kcmx due to their location in relation to an area of more persistent synoptic forcing. These more persistent -shra should drift southeast and affect ksaw this afternoon. Dry high pressure to our northwest will slowly bring clearing conditions overnight...with VFR conditions expected at all 3 taf sites by or shortly after 00z Thursday. && Marine...(for the 4 am Lake Superior forecast issuance) issued at 407 am EDT Wednesday may 22 2013 Arrival of drier air from the northwest today will slowly diminish the fog on the Great Lakes. Gusty northerly winds are expected behind the low pressure system tonight into Thursday...but lingering warm air aloft should keep winds in 20-25kt range. Then...a high pressure ridge building southeast over the upper Great Lakes for Thursday night through the weekend will bring light winds to Lake Superior. && MQT watches/warnings/advisories... Upper Michigan... none. Lake Superior... dense fog advisory until 5 PM EDT this afternoon for lsz249>251- 266-267. Dense fog advisory until 2 PM EDT /1 PM CDT/ this afternoon for lsz162-240>242-245>248-263-265. Dense fog advisory until 8 am EDT this morning for lsz243-244- 264. Lake Michigan... dense fog advisory until 2 PM EDT this afternoon for lmz221-248. Dense fog advisory until 6 PM EDT this evening for lmz250. && $$ Short term...kf long term...07 aviation...kf marine...07