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Winter forecast, part I: the woolley bear prediction
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:48 PM GMT on November 20, 2008 +3
According to legend, the severity of the upcoming winter can be judged by examining the pattern of brown and black stripes on woolly bear caterpillars--the larvae of Isabella tiger moths. If the brown stripe between the two black stripes on either end of the caterpillar is thick, the winter will be a mild one. A narrow brown stripe portends a long, cold winter. Some traditional forecasters say that the 13 segments on the caterpillar's body correspond to the 13 weeks of winter.

The Hagerstown, Maryland woolley bear forecast
The Hagerstown, Maryland Town and Country Almanack has been publishing weather forecasts and weather lore for 211 years. The Almanack sponsors an annual woolly bear caterpillar event, where local school children in Hagerstown collect woolly bears. A panel of judges examines the collected specimens and issues a woolly bear forecast for the upcoming winter. The results of this year's contest, which ended October 31: "From the small number of woolly bears, the consensus is that the winter will be very mild. The woolly bears predicted this by their three (3) bands of which the front band (representing the first half of winter and black in color) was shorter in length and normal. The back band (representing the second half of winter) was very small, thus indicating the mild winter prediction. As a result of those markings, which were similar in all woolly bears, the sponsors were able to make the predictions."

Oil Valley Vick
Naturally, this forecast only applies to the Hagerstown, Maryland area, so other locales will need to do their own woolly bear work to gauge the local winter forecast. In Oil City, Pennsylvania, just 150 miles northwest of Hagerstown, organizers of the Pumkin Bumkin Festival have located the lair of "Oil Valley Vick", a woolly bear caterpillar of unknown forecasting ability, but great potential. In his inaugural forecast on October 23 this year, Oil Valley Vick wowed the crowd at the Pumkin Bumkin Festival when he crawled out of his log. The black stripes covering fully 2/3 of Oil Valley Vick's body left no doubt that he expected a cold, severe winter for northwestern Pennsylvania.


Figure 1. Kelly the woolly bear caterpillar with her owner, six-year-old Kurstin Hartsell of Ansonville, NC. Image credit: Jim Morton, Avery County Chamber of Commerce.

The Banner Elk, North Carolina Woolly Bear forecast
In Banner Elk, NC it's the fastest woolly bear caterpillar which is judged to be the best forecaster. After successfully out-sprinting hundreds of other woolly bears, this year's winner of the 31st Annual Woolly Worm Festival race was Kelly the Woolly Worm, raced by six-year-old Kurstin Hartsell of Ansonville, NC. Kelly the Woolly Worm's official forecast for the winter of 2008-2009 calls for the first four weeks to be cold and snowy, followed by three weeks of seasonably cold weather, followed by six weeks of snowy and cold weather (severely cold in week 11, March 1-7). A study of the predictions of the Banner Elk woolly bears between 1978 and 2000 revealed that "woolly worm winter predictions were exactly on target eight times out of 23, or 34.8%. Woolly worm predictions were close (4.0-4.9) another five times (21.7%). Woolly worm predictions were right in some areas, wrong in others (3.0-3.9) six times (26.1%). Woolly worm predictions were wrong more than they were right (2.0-2.9) four times (17.4%). Put another way, the woolly worms were close or completely right 57% of the time, and more than half right 82.6% of the time".

Other studies of woolly bear forecast accuracy
Several scientific studies have been done on woolly bear caterpillar forecasts, including one by the American Museum of Natural History. None of these studies has shown any correlation between woolly bear markings and the severity of the upcoming winter. According to the Old Farmer's Almanac, Dr. Charles Curran, curator of insects at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, studied woolly bear markings between 1948-1956 in Bear Mountain State Park, 40 miles north of New York City. He found some preliminary results that seemed to indicate that the thickness of the bands might indicate the severity of the upcoming winter. However, Dr. Curran gave up the study in 1955 after finding two groups of caterpillars living near each other that had vastly different predictions for the upcoming winter, according to science writer Ned Rozell.

So, two out of three woolley bear forecasts point to a colder than average winter for the Appalachian region of the U.S. In upcoming blog posts, I'll analyze what NOAA's computer models and the Old Farmer's Almanac have to say about the upcoming winter.

Portlight making keynote presentation at charity funding conference today
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101. IKE 6:49 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting Cotillion:


Way to go Ike, someone's gunna bring the two together now. :(



I can think of one that might, but I better not name who, on here..lol.....
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102. floridafisherman 7:08 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
#72 nice snook
but the regulations are differnt depending on what coast u live on. i live on the gulf so our slot size is 28-33. atlantic and monroe county is 28-32.

check out the snook in my pic. i caught him in total freshwater last year about 30 miles inland from the gulf. measured 33 3/4 inches (caught him before the recent size limit change).

i know this cold spell here in fla is gonna shut down alot of the fishing for a few days. but on the bright side, the cooler temps make the pompano, trout, and mackeral bite better
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103. Seastep 7:17 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
What timing. LOL.

Link
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104. Seastep 7:21 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Sorry, couldn't resist... it had just popped up as a headline on Drudge.
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105. Dodabear 7:31 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
OK folks, get over to the Portlight webcam and watch StormJunkie put down at least 10 krystals for a $100 donation to the cause. More money, more Krystals. Get over and watch the fun at the next stop!!!!
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106. RobDaHood 7:32 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.
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107. RTLSNK (Mod) 7:43 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
106 - Rob - ROFLMAO
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108. NEwxguy 7:44 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting RobDaHood:
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.


Rob,

Thats priceless,but don't think I'll share that with my wife,which is another reason guys like dogs,dogs think everything is amusing
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109. RobDaHood 7:47 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Before any of the ladies get upset with me, My Mother sent me that list!

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110. Seastep 7:48 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
I'm just hoping that's not your hand!
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111. Seastep 7:48 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)
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112. RobDaHood 7:53 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting Seastep:
I'm just hoping that's not your hand!


LOL, no! Girlfriend's hand. edit - moved comments to my blog
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113. conchygirl 7:55 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting RobDaHood:
Any of you dog lovers out there that want a quick giggle check the pic and post on my blog

hope you enjoy.
RDH: That is hysterical and the dog is gorgeous!
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114. Seastep 7:56 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Yes, very cute dog.
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115. Skyepony (Mod) 7:58 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
I never heard of them til I spent some years in WNC. Ours were a little more accurate but locals said you couldn't use just any woolly, only the ones all over the roads & driveways.
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116. Seastep 7:59 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
And cute hand. ;)
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117. RobDaHood 8:01 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
113. conchygirl

He is precious Conchy. Thanks everyone, any questions or comments I'll reply on my blog. I just don't want anyone getting upset with me for clogging up the works.
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118. NEwxguy 8:04 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Being a dog lover,love to talk about them.Thats a goodlooking dog,and looks very intelligent.
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119. TampaSpin 8:05 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Magnitude 5.0 - BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO


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120. theshepherd 8:07 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting Seastep:
Sorry, couldn't resist... it had just popped up as a headline on Drudge.

You're gonna get a spankin' from "you know who"
;>)
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121. Orcasystems 8:12 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Complete Blog Refresh
Mirror Site (New Format)
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122. weatherbro 8:14 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Looks like the east is gonna have a cold thanksgiving as an arctic ridge builds down to Florida(and a powerful Noreaster slams into the mid Atlantic and northeast with snow as far south as Georgia). First I thought it was a GFS glitch. But now it appears other models are starting to jump into the bandwagon.
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123. Orcasystems 8:15 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting RTLSNK:
106 - Rob - ROFLMAO


Hmm wonder is its worth the grief to email that to the wife at work :)
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124. NEwxguy 8:18 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting weatherbro:
Looks like the east is gonna have a cold thanksgiving as an arctic ridge builds down to Florida(and a powerful Noreaster slams into the mid Atlantic and northeast with snow as far south as Georgia). First I thought it was a GFS glitch. But now it appears other models are starting to jump into the bandwagon.


Your not making me feel good about this,they were leaning toward rain,but now trending colder,but still early,this time of year with the waters still relatively warm,track is ultra important
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125. theshepherd 8:19 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
123
Check the cycle first.
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126. RTLSNK (Mod) 8:21 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
123 - Orca - LOL - Your wife or mine?
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127. RobDaHood 8:22 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
LOL gotta get back to work!

see you folks later.
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128. RTLSNK (Mod) 8:24 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
127 - Rob - Oh sure, give us all bad ideas and then run and hide! hahaha
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129. Orcasystems 8:25 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting RTLSNK:
123 - Orca - LOL - Your wife or mine?


OK, I mailed it anyway :)
Now it will probably end up at half the Gov Employees in town when she is finished.
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130. RobDaHood 8:26 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
128. RTLSNK

Okay, send her the link saying it a cute puppy picture and let her blame me....
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131. Hurricane4Lex 8:27 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
I'm back and..........


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



7,762.40 -234.88 (-2.94%)
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132. Patrap 8:29 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
www.poboyfest.com Link

The 2008 New Orleans Po-Boy Preservation Festival will feature:

* live music on two stages
* over 60 of New Orleans' best-known artists offering unique artwork
* family-friendly events such as a childrens section with games and prizes, po-boy photo booth, silent auction, and panel discussions covering the history of the po-boy (starting at 11:00 a.m.)
* and, of course, the best tasting po-boys in New Orleans


Volunteers Needed

Help get NOLA fired up at the 2008 Po-Boy Fest! Sign up now to volunteer at the festival Link
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133. theshepherd 8:32 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
122
Yep, and if the model proves true throughout, it looks like the jet streak on the west side of the ridge still remaing over the Pacific could drive south and bring a suprise for SoCal the following days.
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134. RTLSNK (Mod) 8:32 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
130 - Rob - LOL, after being married for 37 years, trust me, I fear nothing, I did however buy her a Remington Police Magnum 12 gauge shotgun for Christmas a few years back, I am a very well behaved husband!!
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135. Patrap 8:33 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
GOES WV Loop of the Tropical Basin Link

GOES-12 WV Loop w/Dry-Air Shaded Link
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136. Cotillion 8:34 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Watch Portlight to see SJ eat 16 burgers straight. :D
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137. Thundercloud01221991 8:37 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Dow Jones down over 280 points
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138. Patrap 8:39 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
FEWW New Hurricane Scale Makes Hurricane Classification More Meaningful!
Story: Link

FEWW New Hurricane Scale is based on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale and provides a more detailed definition of hurricane forces.

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139. IKE 8:39 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Look at a barrel of crude oil....OIL
4.68
-8.65%
$49.42


I filled up my car today at $1.95.9 per gallon and it only cost me $10 dollars!
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140. Hurricane4Lex 8:39 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
Dow Jones down over 280 points


now its

7,654.47 -342.81 (-4.29%)


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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141. IKE 8:40 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Economy is just continuing to bomb.

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142. Hurricane4Lex 8:41 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting IKE:
Look at a barrel of crude oil....OIL
4.68
-8.65%
$49.42


I filled up my car today at $1.95.9 per gallon and it only cost me $10 dollars!


that's the upside to all of this
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143. Patrap 8:41 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
TROPICAL CYCLONE TROPICAL CYCLONE DESTRUCTIVE POTENTIAL ...

..insured losses do not necessarily scale with hurricane. intensity. For example, the south Florida ... advantages, limitations, and new applications for the...

PDF: Link
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144. RTLSNK (Mod) 8:42 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
129 - Orca - Knew you were a risky kind of guy. I showed that to my wife years ago and she instantly turned it around and said, now see honey(remember that phrase guys, you are about to be conned into something), I have a cat, wouldn't you like to have a little adoring buddy all to yourself? She gave me a dog for Christmas, poor dog had no brain at all, but it was cute.
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145. IKE 8:42 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting Hurricane4Lex:


that's the upside to all of this


Agree...it's helped me in my sales job. It's probably saved me between $150-$200 a month!
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146. Hurricane4Lex 8:43 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
here's an opinion from WSJ


Link


the market today is doing a last minute drop

7,576.74 -420.54 (-5.26%)
(posted at 3:45)
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147. IKE 8:44 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Will there be anything left?

DOW
423.65
-5.30%
7,573.63
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148. Patrap 8:44 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Are we a Brokerage Firm now on wu?

LOL
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149. Patrap 8:45 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
I invested in Fire to Keep the Hoards of Marauders off when the Crash comes IKE.


Fire iz Cheap and easy to Buy.

Wink,wink..

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150. IKE 8:51 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
Quoting Patrap:
Are we a Brokerage Firm now on wu?

LOL


Just a bad economy right now. It's wearing and tearing on folks.
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151. Patrap 8:54 PM GMT on November 20, 2008    
When it "Rains"..the "Song Remains the Same"....,too.Link

...Sup,Ike
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