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Western Caribbean disturbance unlikely to develop this week
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:57 PM GMT on June 07, 2009 +2
An area of disturbed weather is bringing some heavy rains to Nicaragua and Honduras and the adjacent waters of the Western Caribbean. This disturbance has generated 2 - 3 inches of rain over these countries over the past two days, and is likely to bring an additional 2 - 3 inches of rain to northeastern Honduras and Nicaragua over the next two days. The disturbance is expected to gradually drift northwards, bringing heavy rain to the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, and Cuba by Monday or Tuesday. The disturbance is under prohibitively high wind shear of 30 - 40 knots, and is not a threat to develop today or Monday. Some of the computer models are predicting wind shear may fall low enough to allow development of this system 4 - 7 days from now, but the models have been rather inconsistent in the location and timing of any such development. For now, the chances of a tropical depression forming from this disturbance within the next week appear low, less than 30%.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of the Western Caribbean disturbance.

I'll have an update Monday.

Jeff Masters
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201. Orcasystems 8:28 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
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202. Cavin Rawlins 8:29 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
. NVM
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203. Patrap 8:29 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Current Conditions
Roatan WU-Page


Updated: 27 min 27 sec ago
Partly Cloudy
88 °F
Partly Cloudy
Humidity: 62%
Dew Point: 73 °F
Wind: 9 mph from the NNE
Pressure: 29.80 in (Falling)
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204. Cazatormentas 8:29 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
We have had the enormous honour of being able to interview to Mr. Masters for Cazatormentas.Net, who has nicely agreed to answer some questions formulated by Spanish Weather Enthusiasts. You could find the questions and their answers both in Spanish and in English.

Complete Interview

We want to thank him for his great effort attending to our request!

Many thanks again, Mr. Masters!! Always learning reading in your blog!
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205. Patrap 8:31 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Outstanding..Jeff Masters always has something to enlighten us with,in a interview.

Thanx for the info.
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206. 954FtLCane 8:31 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
hello everyone... haven't posted since last year.....building storm here in oakland park fl (n of ft laud)..... just heard 3.. loud loud and i mean loud claps of thunder
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208. wxhatt 8:37 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Looks heavy thunderstorm activity starting to pop...

poss-Anna
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210. aquak9 8:39 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
roatangardener--- so great to see you!
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211. Stormchaser2007 8:40 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Supercell initiation is about to occur in KS and NE.
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212. cjswilmingtoneye 8:41 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
wow.. the models are out to lunch, and they went a ways to get there. It seems like every model offers up a completley different solution. When I was looking at the GFS I noticed it still developed the area in the southwestern caribbean, although quite a bit weaker than previous runs, and it also seems to want to have some type, either tropical/subtropical, development off the southeast coast. The CMC doesn't even develop the caribbean area, but does develop something north of Cuba around the Bahamas and has that moving northeast. The NGPS develops an area that looks like it moves from south america northwestward to right over Jamaica? Am I crazy or this really what the computer models are saying? jw
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213. wxhatt 8:43 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
No, your right. Models have gone from agreement a couple days ago, to conflicting.

something probably will come out of this eventually, but to what degree depends on the upper air conditions at that time...
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216. Patrap 8:46 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
When you see so much disparity in the Big 4,then we must assume development isnt certain,as Jeff Masters says,above,a "less than 30%" chance at Tropical Development. When you start seeing the ensemble agreeing with one another,or consensus among them,..
then Things usually follow suit.
Wouldnt be much use if every model spit out the same solution everytime.
Each model has its own High and Low points and are individually different.
For a reason,..kinda like us Humans.
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217. Patrap 8:48 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
218. zoomiami 8:48 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Ok, I give up. I have googled, read, and looked at 4 models, all for the "Cape". Someone please tell me what the "Cape" is.

TIA
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219. cjswilmingtoneye 8:50 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
When you see so much disparity in the Big 4,then we must assume development isnt certain,as Jeff Masters says,above,maybe a 30% chance at Tropical Development. When you start seeing the ensemble agreeing with one another,or consensus among them,..
then Things usually follow suit.
Wouldnt be much use if every model spit out the same solution everytime.
Each model has its own High and Low points and are individually different.
For a reason,..kinda like us Humans.

A hint of sarcasm? I think so.. I understand what you said, but I was just shocked that all of them were going totally opposite ways with the forecast. I've personally never seen this much disagreement. I mean, I've seen differences but this looks whacky
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220. Patrap 8:51 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Sarcasm...me?

..say it aint so.

LOL
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222. wxhatt 8:52 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
When you see so much disparity in the Big 4,then we must assume development isnt certain,as Jeff Masters says,above,maybe a 30% chance at Tropical Development. When you start seeing the ensemble agreeing with one another,or consensus among them,..
then Things usually follow suit.
Wouldnt be much use if every model spit out the same solution everytime.
Each model has its own High and Low points and are individually different.
For a reason,..kinda like us Humans.


I agree, it drives me crazy how they swing from one solun to the other though. I've heard of feedback runs, but not quite sure how that happens.
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223. Patrap 8:53 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    

Convective Available Potential Energy (CAPE)


One term you will hear when listening to NOAA Weather Radio, storm chasers, and weather experts during storm season is CAPE. Here is a little about what CAPE is and how it pertains to severe weather.

The convective available potential energy or CAPE, is used by weather officials and storm chasers to understand what the potential might be for severe weather, and how powerful those storms might become if they do materialize. The potential energy available for convection is expressed mathematically using a standard measurement of energy represented as Joules Per Kilogram. A high CAPE value might also be expressed by storm chasers and weather experts by using the term "high instability". When chasers talk about a highly unstable atmosphere, CAPE values are usually in excess of 2500 J/kg's which would supply ample energy for strong updrafts and violent storms should they develop.

CAPE value Convective potential
0 Stable
0-1000 Marginally Unstable
1000-2500 Moderately Unstable
2500-3500 Very Unstable
3500 Extremely Unstable

More specifically, CAPE represents the amount of buoyant energy available to speed up a parcel vertically, or the amount of work a parcel does on the environment. Storms require high CAPE values; the higher the CAPE value, the more energy available to promote storm growth. CAPE is especially important when air parcels are able to reach the (LFC) or Layer of Free Convection. To find CAPE from a skew-T thermodynamic diagram like the one below, simply locate the area on the diagram where the parcel sounding (Thick yellow vertical line) is farther to the right (warmer) than the atmosphere sounding (red line). The white shaded region on the sounding below is the area of CAPE.
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224. Patrap 8:56 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
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225. Patrap 8:58 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Denver Colorado
308 am MDT sun Jun 7 2009



Short term...cold front is currently backing southwest across the
forecast area. Weak outflow from thunderstorms over southern Wyoming
and northern Colorado is pushing through the Denver metropolitan area now.
The cold front runs from Fort Collins to Fort Lupton to Byers. At
its current pace the front will be through most of the metropolitan area by
sunrise. Air behind the front is very moist and cooler. Dew points
behind the front over northeast are in the middle 50s. This will result
in low clouds and fog this morning.


At the upper levels...a short wave trough over Utah will move across
northern Colorado today. The lift from the short wave combined with
the moisture behind the front should produce scattered showers and
thunderstorms. The amount of thunderstorm activity and the strength
of it will depend on how much clearing occurs late this morning and
this afternoon. Looks like it will be slow to clear out today and
afternoon heating will be slow. Lowered high temperatures to the 60s
for most locations today which will limit how unstable it will be
this afternoon. If current forecasted highs pan out convective available potential energy will
remain below a 1000 j/kg. This will make it hard for storms to
become severe but not impossible.
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226. zoomiami 9:00 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Thanks Pat, appreciate the explanation
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227. Patrap 9:01 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
I used the search engine and found that excellent explanation,,yvw


Anytime zm.
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228. roatangardener 9:02 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
i know. i browse here all the time but dont usually post until hurricane season here starts to get busy. now we have earthquakes to deal with. since the 7.1 on may 28th we've had aftershocks in the 4.5 area almost every day. somehow we didnt have much structural damage.. just broken glass and ceramics. i was just wondering if this system in the western carib will slide over to the west and give us some badly needed rain... Helen
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229. wxhatt 9:04 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Yes Patrap, the Weather Channel just talking about that same cell. I think the Vortex 2 team is in the area.
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231. futuremet 9:05 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
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232. zoomiami 9:05 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
A matter of searching for the right terms. When I first learned legal research there was a book just for terms - if you couldn't find what you were looking for, you searched through the "words" to find one that worked.

Obviously, I need a meterology dictionary...lol
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235. nrtiwlnvragn 9:08 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting zoomiami:
A matter of searching for the right terms. When I first learned legal research there was a book just for terms - if you couldn't find what you were looking for, you searched through the "words" to find one that worked.

Obviously, I need a meterology dictionary...lol


Glossary of Meteorology
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236. Patrap 9:08 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
V2 may be there..they get around pretty good,and the Front Range is a Wide open area today.
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237. Ossqss 9:09 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Getting wet again where they really don't need to again.

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238. Cavin Rawlins 9:12 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
I'm interested to see what our tropical wave will bring to the WCARIB

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239. aquak9 9:20 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
SBCAPE (Surface-Based Convective Available Potential Energy) is a measure of instability in the troposphere. This value represents the total amount of potential energy available to a parcel of air originating at the surface and being lifted to its level of free convection (LFC). No parcel entrainment is considered. The CAPE and CIN calculations use the virtual temperature correction.

CIN (Convective INhibition) represents the "negative" area on a sounding that must be overcome before storm initiation can occur.

The NCAPE (Normalized CAPE) is CAPE that is divided by the depth of the buoyancy layer (units of m s**-2). Values near or less than .1 suggest a "tall, skinny" CAPE profile with relatively weak parcel accelerations, while values closer to .3 to .4 suggest a "fat" CAPE profile with large parcel accelerations possible. Normalized CAPE and lifed indicies are similar measures of instability.

MUCAPE (Most Unstable Convective Available Potential Energy) is a measure of instability in the troposphere. This value represents the total amount of potential energy available to the most unstable parcel of air found within the lowest 300-mb of the atmosphere while being lifted to its level of free convection (LFC). No parcel entrainment is considered. The CAPE and CIN calculations use the virtual temperature correction.

The LPL (Lifted Parcel Level) allows for the determination of the height of the most unstable parcel. This makes it easy to identify areas where the largest CAPE is "elevated."


These are from the SPC. Hope that helps...a little.
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240. presslord 9:21 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    


Charleston, SC yesterday
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241. IKE 9:22 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
I'm interested to see what our tropical wave will bring to the WCARIB



Looks like the 18Z NAM is picking up on that wave at 84 hours....

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242. SavannahStorm 9:22 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
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243. zoomiami 9:24 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Thanks Vort, Nrti, Aquak, I'm putting these on my favorites - working on reference items this week, so its a good fit.

Press - what is that bridge? Its beautiful.
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244. SavannahStorm 9:27 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting zoomiami:
Thanks Vort, Nrti, Aquak, I'm putting these on my favorites - working on reference items this week, so its a good fit.

Press - what is that bridge? Its beautiful.


That's the Ravenel Bridge in Charleston.
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245. IKE 9:27 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting SavannahStorm:


That low is moving on east/NE.

The trough should lift out by mid-week. Then the wave hits in the western Caribbean.
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246. CybrTeddy 9:32 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
One things for certain, there is a lot of instability down the caribbean.
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248. viman 9:37 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting P451:
OT: It hit 132.8 Degrees in Afghanistan a couple of days ago:

# Past 72 Hours: 56°C (132.8°F) [KQD9:SALERNO FOB, AFGHANISTAN]


Is that a record high? Never heard of it going that high!!
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249. presslord 9:38 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Zoo...Sav is correct...it's the Ravenel Bridge...connecting the Charleston Penninsula with Mt. Pleasant...which, btw, has no mountain...and is not particularly pleasant...but the bridge is a beaut...
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251. cjswilmingtoneye 9:38 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Patrap, didn't like the sarcasm lol, but enjoyed the link. It was very informative. Thanks
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