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Western Caribbean disturbance unlikely to develop this week
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:57 PM GMT on June 07, 2009 +2
An area of disturbed weather is bringing some heavy rains to Nicaragua and Honduras and the adjacent waters of the Western Caribbean. This disturbance has generated 2 - 3 inches of rain over these countries over the past two days, and is likely to bring an additional 2 - 3 inches of rain to northeastern Honduras and Nicaragua over the next two days. The disturbance is expected to gradually drift northwards, bringing heavy rain to the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, and Cuba by Monday or Tuesday. The disturbance is under prohibitively high wind shear of 30 - 40 knots, and is not a threat to develop today or Monday. Some of the computer models are predicting wind shear may fall low enough to allow development of this system 4 - 7 days from now, but the models have been rather inconsistent in the location and timing of any such development. For now, the chances of a tropical depression forming from this disturbance within the next week appear low, less than 30%.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of the Western Caribbean disturbance.

I'll have an update Monday.

Jeff Masters
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251. cjswilmingtoneye 9:38 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Patrap, didn't like the sarcasm lol, but enjoyed the link. It was very informative. Thanks
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252. Makoto1 9:40 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Zoo...Sav is correct...it's the Ravenal Bridge...connecting the Charleston Penninsula with Mt. Pleasant...which, btw, has no mountain...and is not particularly pleasant...but the bridge is a beaut...


I think I've been over that bridge. I want one as good as that up here but "good luck".

I remember this little bridge from the mainland to the Isle of Palms, it was pouring rain, and we get on the bridge and it stops. Get off the bridge, the rain comes in again. It was quite odd...
253. presslord 9:41 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting P451:


I watched a Discovery program based on the building of that bridge. Of interest is one part of the show they had severe weather move in and they had a waterspout. Kind of eerily similar to the pic that presslord just posted.

Coincidence? Or how much does topography play into the formation of such structures.


frankly the topography can be summed up pretty easily...flat...
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255. WPBHurricane05 9:43 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Savannah has one of those bridges too. Way to big for me. Stayed away from both when visiting both Savannah and Charleston.
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256. Makoto1 9:45 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting P451:


I am not sure if it is a verified/official reading or not.

I found it at http://coolwx.com/extreme/



Even if it is verified, I know it's not a world record (though still amazing). World record was 136 F in Libya, which I think translates to 59 C.
257. CaicosRetiredSailor 9:45 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
presslord:


Here is a good reason to keep Hurricanes away from the area for a while...

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/jun/07/big_draw_will_be_tall_ships85170/#comments


Eighteen tall ships are scheduled to make port for Charleston Harbor Fest 2009. The June 26-29 event, which started as a simple wooden-boat show, is fast becoming a major happening on the Charleston calendar.

CRS
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258. presslord 9:46 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
the Ravenel is only aboutt 3 years old...replaced 2 old (circa 1930's and early '60's) whcih were quite scary...the Ravenel has a walking/biking lane...pretty view of the Harbor...
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259. presslord 9:47 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
CRS...I'm pretty involved in that...is a ton of interesting fun...
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261. SavannahStorm 9:48 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:
Savannah has one of those bridges too. Way to big for me. Stayed away from both when visiting both Savannah and Charleston.




Talmadge Memorial Bridge
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262. CaicosRetiredSailor 9:49 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
..I kinda figured as much.
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263. presslord 9:50 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
hi WSJFV...
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264. Patrap 9:51 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
When we returned from Norway and Europe on the USS Raliegh LPD-1 in April 84,..we sailed under the Old bridge going to Moorhead City I believe.
Was a Great Sight seeing that Bridge,the Old one after being away from the USA for 4 Months.

We cleared that Sucka with the Pilot by about 3 ft to the radar Mast.
Was way cool.
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265. WPBHurricane05 9:51 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
261- That would be the one. Its a shame that I'm allergic to heights because I would love to see the view from those bridges.

For now, I'll stick to our little draw bridges in Palm Beach that go over the Intracoastal.
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266. IKE 9:53 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
hi WSJFV...


LOL
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267. viman 9:55 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
just googled it -- highest recorded air temp was 57.8 °C (136 °F)Al 'Aziziyah, Libya
13 September 1922
highest recorded surface temperature was 70.7 °C (159.3 °F) in 2005 in the Lut desert, Iran.
Dang - I won't ever complain about the heat again. :)





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268. DeerfieldBeachGuy 9:56 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Good afternoon everyone---Thought we might see some nasty thunderstorms here in Deerfield Beach but everything stayed offshore. Was a great beach day early on

Looking at the latest radar though there could be a second round of storms this evening.
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269. presslord 9:56 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    


before domolition of old bridges
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270. WPBHurricane05 9:56 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
We gotta invest in the EPAC- Link
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271. bballerf50 9:59 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
When is the next MJO after the one later this month?
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272. WPBHurricane05 10:00 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting bballerf50:
When is the next MJO after the one later this month?


CFS says middle of July.
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273. Cavin Rawlins 10:01 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
91E

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274. bballerf50 10:02 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
thanks
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275. HURRICANECAT5 10:03 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
DEEP CONVECTION IS STARTING TO DEVELOP WITH OUR AREA OF INTEREST.
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276. K8eCane 10:06 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:


before domolition of old bridges


you guys bring back memories with these pics...back in 1978 i think it was, my girlfriend drove across the old cooper river bridge by accident from mt pleasant...we couldnt turn around... had to keep going...i swear she had her eyes closed and was saying over and over "help me Jesus, help me Jesus... we were both about18 yrs old... then we got stuck in "little mexico" b4 we could figure how to get out of there
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277. Tazmanian 10:07 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
000
ABPZ20 KNHC 071733
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM PDT SUN JUN 7 2009

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE DEVELOPED IN ASSOCIATION WITH A BROAD
AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 1000 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF
THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA. SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES SLOWLY
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
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279. Tazmanian 10:09 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
91E bust
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280. presslord 10:10 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
the old Cooper River Bridge would scare the snot out of any sane person...
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281. GeoffreyWPB 10:10 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
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282. GeoffreyWPB 10:11 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Nice example of a line of demarcation between dry and moist air. Water vapor imagery shows it a lot better.
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283. Ossqss 10:14 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Nice example of a line of demarcation between dry and moist air. Water vapor imagery shows it a lot better.


Sure is !

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284. plywoodstatenative 10:14 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Yeah, and it was the evening round of storms that created havoc last night after the Marlins game. Crazy rain delay before the game and a monsoonal 5th-9th inning afterwards. But I swear South Floridians truly do not know how to drive in rainy weather.
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285. homelesswanderer 10:17 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
Zoo...Sav is correct...it's the Ravenel Bridge...connecting the Charleston Penninsula with Mt. Pleasant...which, btw, has no mountain...and is not particularly pleasant...but the bridge is a beaut...


Beautiful bridge pics. And Lol about Mt. Pleasant. Texas has a Mt. Pleasant too. We found that out on our way home from the Rita evac when Barney Fife gave us a speeding ticket. UGH! Lol. They must be sister cities.
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286. clwstmchasr 10:19 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Looks like on the latest run of the GFS, for the first time in days it is not developing a tropical system in the western caribbean.
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287. WPBHurricane05 10:22 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting clwstmchasr:
Looks like on the latest run of the GFS, for the first time in days it is not developing a tropical system in the western caribbean.


Has moisture making its way to S. Florida with a very weak low.
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289. plywoodstatenative 10:24 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting WPBHurricane05:


Has moisture making its way to S. Florida with a very weak low.


Yeah, just what we need. More rain, sooner or later, we are going to be below sea level..
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290. CatastrophicDL 10:24 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Patrap are you still on here? If so I posted several pictures from the air show yesterday. Hope you like them!
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291. zoomiami 10:26 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
K8 - an experience you will probably never forget. Did something similar when trying to get on the Verazzano Narrows bridge - missed exit, could not figure out how to turn around, was back in the 80's when it was not a safe place to be. I prayed a lot too!
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292. Stormchaser2007 10:26 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
I really think the SW Caribbean disturbance wont develop. Looks like garbage and even the GFS doesnt develop it.
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293. CaicosRetiredSailor 10:27 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
hmmmm.... this makes me wonder if Patrap may be somehow involved....

Nagin "Shanghaied"

(CNN) -- The mayor of New Orleans, Louisiana, has been quarantined in China after possible exposure to the H1N1 virus, his office said Sunday.

Nagin, his wife and a member of his security detail have been quarantined in Shanghai, China,

Ceeon Quiett, the mayor's director of communications, told CNN ... there was no indication how long the quarantine would last

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/06/07/china.nagin.flu.virus/?iref=mpstoryview

CRS
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294. zoomiami 10:28 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Looks similar in design to the Sunshine Skyway - that bridge has always terrified me - hate driving it.

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295. stormwatcherCI 10:28 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Finally got some rain in Cayman. Looks like a lot more to come. Winds SSE @25 mph. Pressure 1011 mb.
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296. K8eCane 10:29 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting zoomiami:
K8 - an experience you will probably never forget. Did something similar when trying to get on the Verazzano Narrows bridge - missed exit, could not figure out how to turn around, was back in the 80's when it was not a safe place to be. I prayed a lot too!



yes...neither of us will ever forget that....and then when my uncle had his heart transplant at CMU...my mother drove across at 90 mph i believe...it was frightening
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297. ackee 10:29 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
I really think the SW Caribbean disturbance wont develop. Looks like garbage and even the GFS doesnt develop it.
agree
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298. viman 10:29 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Tampa right?
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299. weatherwatcher12 10:30 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
I really think the SW Caribbean disturbance wont develop. Looks like garbage and even the GFS doesnt develop it.

Doesn't the gfs develop it
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300. zoomiami 10:31 PM GMT on June 07, 2009    
Nice chatting - back to cleaning!
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