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World storm surge records
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:41 PM GMT on August 03, 2009 +4
There's still not much to talk about the tropical Atlantic today. The Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), the band of intense thunderstorms that spans the tropical Atlantic between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has grown more active in the past few days, though. The two tropical waves in the ITCZ closest to the coast of Africa bear some scrutiny this week as they cross the Atlantic. However, none of the models are currently forecasting development of these waves, and there is plenty of wind shear and dry air that will interfere with potential development.

World storm surge records
In preparation for the release of a major new storm surge section of the web site, I've been researching storm surge records. The Bathurst Bay Cyclone, also known as Tropical Cyclone Mahina, which struck Bathurst Bay, Australia on March 5, 1899, is generally credited with the world record for storm surge. The cyclone's storm surge is variously listed at 13 - 14.6 meters (43 - 48 feet). The Category 5 cyclone was a monster--with sustained winds in excess of 175 mph and a central pressure between 880 and 914 mb. Mahina killed at least 307 people, mostly on pearling ships, and was the deadliest cyclone in Australian history. The eyewitness account of Mahina's record storm surge was provided by Constable J. M. Kenny, who journeyed to Barrow Point on Bathurst Bay to investigate a crime on the day of the storm. While camped on a ridge 40 feet above sea level and 1/2 mile inland, Kenny's camp was inundated by a storm wave, reaching waist-deep. On nearby Flinders Island, fish and dolphins were found on top of 15 meter (49 foot) cliffs. However, an analysis by Nott and Hayne (2000) found no evidence of storm-deposited debris higher than 3 - 5 meters above mean sea level in the region. They also cited two computer storm surge simulations of the cyclone that were unable to generate a surge higher than three meters. Indeed, Bathurst Bay is not ideally situated to receive high storm surges. The Great Barrier Reef lies just 20 - 40 km offshore, and the ocean bottom near the bay is not shallow, but steeply sloped. Both of these factors should conspire to keep storm surges well below the record 13 - 14.6 meters reported. The authors concluded that the actual surge from the Bathurst Bay Cyclone may have been 3 - 5 meters. The observed inundation at 13 meters elevation, plus the observation of dolphins deposited at 15 meters above sea level, could have been caused by high waves on top of the surge, they argue. Waves on top of the surge (called "wave run-up") can reach five times the wave height at the shore for steeply fronted coasts like at Bathurst Bay. Since waves in the Bathurst Bay Cyclone could easily have been 3 meters, 15 meters of wave run-up on top of the surge is quite feasible. Since wave run-up doesn't count as surge, the status of the 1899 Bathurst Bay Hurricane as the world-record holder for storm surge is questionable. However, the event is certainly the record holder for the high water mark set by a tropical cyclone's storm surge, an important category in its own right.


Figure 1. Satellite image of Bathurst Bay, Queensland Province, Australia. The record 43 - 48 foot storm surge wave occurred on Barrow Point, marked by an "x" on the map above. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 2. Track of the 1899 Bathurst Bay cyclone. Bathurst Bay is located at the point where the 914 mb pressure is listed. Image credit: Whittingham, 1958.

Australian storm surge records
The largest storm surges in Australia occur in Gulf of Carpentaria, due to the large expanse of shallow water there (the Gulf of Carpentaria is the large bay to the left of the zoomed-in map of Bathurst Bay shown above). According to an email I received from Australian hurricane scientist Jeffrey Callaghan, "From all reports the storm surge from the disastrous 5 March 1887 cyclone flooded almost all of Burketown (some 30km inland from the Gulf). A copy of a 1918 report to the Queensland Parliament from the Department of Harbours and Rivers Engineer refers to the sea rising to 5.5 metres above the highest spring tide level at the Albert River Heads. This level is about 8 metres (26.2 feet) above Australian Height Datum (AHD). The biggest measured surge in the Gulf of Carpenteria occurred on 30 March 1923, when a surge of 21.4 feet was recorded at a Groote Eylandt Mission".

So what is the world storm surge record if the Bathurst Bay cyclone does not qualify? Well, I haven't researched storms in the Indian Ocean or Pacific Typhoons yet, but it might be difficult to find any storm that beats Hurricane Katrina's 27.8 foot storm surge.

References:
Nott, J, N. Hayne, 2000: How high was the storm surge from Tropical Cyclone Mahina?", Australian Journal of Emergency Management, Autumn 2000.

Anonymous, 1899, The Outridge Report--The Pearling Disaster 1899: A Memorial", The Outridge Company, 1899

Whittingham, 1958, "The Bathurst Bay hurricane and associated storm surge", Australian Meteorological Magazine, No. 27, pp. 40-41. Scanned and put on-line courtesy of John McBride.

I'll have an update on Tuesday, when the latest CSU seasonal hurricane forecast comes out at 11am EDT.
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Jeff Masters
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801. hunkerdown 10:38 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Fshhead:
LOL Don't you guys(wishcasters) think maybe the NHC would MENTION it if they thought there was development possibilitys??
No, they are far too humble, they would probably leave to the experts here on the WU blog.
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802. Cavin Rawlins 10:38 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Don't know, but I won't be surprise if they don't mention anything at 8PM. Just think they gonna play it.
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803. CybrTeddy 10:39 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
GFS 18Z was more aggressive, went NE of the islands.

Good news if that verifies. Bothering no one but fish and shipping.


We don't mind fishes, they're always interesting to watch without having to worry about the horrible death and destruction. Love fish storms, I actually love for a Category 5 fish storm that wouldn't effect anyone and just dissipate. Kind of like Hurricane Dog.
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804. Chicklit 10:39 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
SSTs were about 28 degrees a few days ago. It's heading into the 30 degree zone last time I checked a map.
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805. IKE 10:40 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Just look at the discussion...comes out about 6:15 EDST...you'll likely know by looking at the waves and ITCZ listed.
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806. sporteguy03 10:40 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Prepare the crow.


I won't crow you Ike ever you are a good guy on this blog :)
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807. Patrap 10:41 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Crow?..Im the last one here who dismisses anything come August.

I've tangled with the CV Beast too many times in 50 years,Betsy,Camille,Elena,Katrina all taught me well on that issue Dear.

But till a CLosed Vortex gets to 85W,25N,..Im not gonna run and scream Fire here.

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808. Cavin Rawlins 10:41 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
SSTs were about 28 degrees a few days ago. It's heading into the 30 degree zone last time I checked a map.


29C but basically the same thing.
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809. extreme236 10:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
GFS 18Z was more aggressive, went NE of the islands.

Good news if that verifies. Bothering no one but fish and shipping.


I just would like something to track.
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810. WxLogic 10:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Good evening...
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811. cyclonekid 10:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Goni


TD 9W

(Maybe Rapid Intensifier)
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812. BurnedAfterPosting 10:43 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Crow?..Im the last one here who dismisses anything come August.

I've tangled with the CV Beast too many times in 50 years,Betsy,Camille,Elena,Katrina all taught me well on that issue Dear.

But till a CLosed Vortex gets to 85W,25N,..Im not gonna run and scream Fire here.



I agree that a few get carried away, the people like 456 who are watching this arent screaming fire though
813. Tazmanian 10:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


I just would like something to track.



236 do you no if 99E have become TD 8E and TD 7E has be come a name storm???
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814. Claudette1234 10:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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815. Cavin Rawlins 10:44 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.
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816. Stormchaser2007 10:45 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Looking good...

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817. Relix 10:45 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
The wave is looking mighty good. Will be a shame if it fizzles, i want some things to track. Just keep it away from the islands... and heck, any land... please.
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818. extreme236 10:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:



236 do you no if 99E have become TD 8E and TD 7E has be come a name storm???


Currently no new data is out. We'll get more insight on 99E in the TWO and I will keep an eye out when the models are initiated for anything important.
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819. HurricaneSwirl 10:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting cyclonekid:
Goni


TD 9W

(Maybe Rapid Intensifier)


it looks like they both had their heads cut off lol.

shear and/or dust must be high in the WPAC too
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820. Patrap 10:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quotes,..
nickel a dozen here,
..and putting words in my mouth is the worst form of blogging here.

No one meantioned anyone sport,.or whomever you are BAP person.
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821. archer312 10:46 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Pretty impressive Trop Wave coming off Africa around Cape Verde today...
I hope this image link works,
its the Goes full disk IR ...

822. extreme236 10:47 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Looking good...



Might be the one. Then again I think I've said this before.
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823. Cavin Rawlins 10:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Rarely see the ITCZ behaves so

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824. IKE 10:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Watch the NHC give it a yellow and then say conditions aren't expected to be favorable.

Here's the latest shear map...

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825. sporteguy03 10:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.


Haiti?
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826. BurnedAfterPosting 10:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Quotes,..
nickel a dozen here,
..and putting words in my mouth is the worst form of blogging here.

No one meantioned anyone sport,.or whomever you are BAP person.


it just seemed implied , if you werent than my apologies
827. Patrap 10:48 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
I'll take "Invest" 09 for 500 ALex..


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828. extreme236 10:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Just look at the discussion...comes out about 6:15 EDST...you'll likely know by looking at the waves and ITCZ listed.


Sometimes the discussion data lags the NHC TWO's and such (possibly due to it being released earlier most of the time), so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
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829. Claudette1234 10:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.


Must be an African country!
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830. HurricaneSwirl 10:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
im not sure i see what you guys are getting at. the wave honestly doesn't look all that great to me on the rainbow imagery. either im color blind or its been so long since we had a good wave this is considered good now. now TD 7E, THAT looks good XD
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831. Tazmanian 10:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


Currently no new data is out. We'll get more insight on 99E in the TWO and I will keep an eye out when the models are initiated for anything important.



whats that site called can i have a link
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832. BurnedAfterPosting 10:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
I'll take "Invest" 09 for 500 ALex..




lol
833. Twinkster 10:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.


Panama
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834. extreme236 10:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:



whats that site called can i have a link


Link
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835. Patrap 10:52 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
easy,Haiti..no frigging trees
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836. HurricaneSwirl 10:53 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.


costa rica? haiti? eh probably wrong
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837. KoritheMan 10:53 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.


Haiti.
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838. melwerle 10:53 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Apparently a bit of shaking going on out here...didn't feel a THING.
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839. hunkerdown 10:54 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.
There would be multiple answers without being more specific with your question. Deforestaion on different regions from Africa, SE Asia and South America have major effects to different parts of the world. I could be wrong but I would say the answer would be quite subjective depending on the region impacted.
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840. Patrap 10:56 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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Storm surge: 4.7 meters
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841. Stormchaser2007 10:57 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Although it looks pretty nice...I doubt the NHC will mention it.
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843. ALCoastGambler 10:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
easy,Haiti..no frigging trees
At least no frigging Pine Trees....lol
844. docrod 10:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Haiti
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845. hurricane23 10:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Some models ive looked at this afternoon develope TD9W pretty rapidly (incredible storm) with an extremely low central pressure.
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846. brazocane 11:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Easter isle
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847. Patrap 11:01 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Hurricane Gustav Makes Landfall,multiple Radar Loops

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848. pvbeachbum 11:01 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
I would say Haiti also, but when we were there on a cruise in May, everywhere we saw had trees - we didn't see any deforested areas. We must have been on the wrong side of the island to see it...
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849. extreme236 11:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
99E looks to be getting close to TD status as well.
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851. Cavin Rawlins 11:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Here's a question for you guys til the TWD or TWO comes out?

In which country located in the tropics is the effects of deforestation most evident? All right answers get plus 1, lol, sorry don't have any cash on me.


Answer: Haiti, deforestation started since the 16-17 century during the colonisation of the new world. due to the baren hill sides, haiti floods easily, under the same amount of rainfall, I place like Panama or Costa Rica gets.
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