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A new world record wind gust: 253 mph in Australia's Tropical Cyclone Olivia
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:34 PM GMT on January 27, 2010 +6
The 6,288-foot peak of New Hampshire's Mount Washington is a forbidding landscape of wind-swept barren rock, home to some of planet Earth's fiercest winds. As a 5-year old boy, I remember being blown over by a terrific gust of wind on the summit, and rolling out of control towards a dangerous drop-off before a fortuitously-placed rock saved me. Perusing the Guinness Book of World Records as a kid, three iconic world weather records always held a particular mystique and fascination for me: the incredible 136°F (57.8°C) at El Azizia, Libya in 1922, the -128.5°F (-89.2°C) at the "Pole of Cold" in Vostok, Antarctica in 1983, and the amazing 231 mph wind gust (103.3 m/s) recorded in 1934 on the summit of Mount Washington, New Hampshire. Well, the legendary winds of Mount Washington have to take second place now, next to the tropical waters of northwest Australia. The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) has announced that the new world wind speed record at the surface is a 253 mph (113.2 m/s) wind gust measured on Barrow Island, Australia. The gust occurred on April 10, 1996, during passage of the eyewall of Category 4 Tropical Cyclone Olivia.


Figure 1. Instruments coated with rime ice on the summit of Mt. Washington, New Hampshire. Image credit: Mike Theiss.

Tropical Cyclone Olivia
Tropical Cyclone Olivia was a Category 4 storm on the U.S. Saffir-Simpson scale, and generated sustained winds of 145 mph (1-minute average) as it crossed over Barrow Island off the northwest coast of Australia on April 10, 1996. Olivia had a central pressure of 927 mb and an eye 45 miles in diameter at the time, and generated waves 21 meters (69 feet) high offshore. According to Black et al. (1999), the eyewall likely had a tornado-scale mesovortex embedded in it that caused the extreme wind gust of 253 mph. The gust was measured at the standard measuring height of 10 meters above ground, on ground at an elevation of 64 meters (210 feet). A similar mesovortex was encountered by a Hurricane Hunter aircraft in Hurricane Hugo of 1989, and a mesovortex was also believed to be responsible for the 239 mph wind gust measured at 1400 meters by a dropsonde in Hurricane Isabel in 2003. For reference, 200 mph is the threshold for the strongest category of tornado, the EF-5, and any gusts of this strength are capable of causing catastrophic damage.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of Tropical Cyclone Olivia a few hours before it crossed Barrow Island, Australia, setting a new world-record wind gust of 253 mph. Image credit: Japan Meteorological Agency.


Figure 3. Wind trace taken at Barrow Island, Australia during Tropical Cyclone Olivia. Image credit: Buchan, S.J., P.G. Black, and R.L. Cohen, 1999, "The Impact of Tropical Cyclone Olivia on Australia's Northwest Shelf", paper presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas, 3-6 May, 1999.

Why did it take so long for the new record to be announced?
The instrument used to take the world record wind gust was funded by a private company, Chevron, and Chevron's data was not made available to forecasters at Australia's Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) during the storm. After the storm, the tropical cyclone experts at BOM were made aware of the data, but it was viewed as suspect, since the gusts were so extreme and the data was taken with equipment of unknown accuracy. Hence, the observations were not included in the post-storm report. Steve Buchan from RPS MetOcean believed in the accuracy of the observations, and coauthored a paper on the record gust, presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston (Buchan et al., 1999). The data lay dormant until 2009, when Joe Courtney of the Australian Bureau of Meteorology was made aware of it. Courtney wrote up a report, coauthored with Steve Buchan, and presented this to the WMO extremes committee for ratification. The report has not been made public yet, and is awaiting approval by Chevron. The verified data will be released next month at a World Meteorological Organization meeting in Turkey, when the new world wind record will become official.

New Hampshire residents are not happy
Residents of New Hampshire are understandably not too happy about losing their cherished claim to fame. The current home page of the Mount Washington Observatory reads, "For once, the big news on Mount Washington isn't our extreme weather. Sadly, it's about how our extreme weather--our world record wind speed, to be exact--was outdone by that of a warm, tropical island".

Comparison with other wind records
Top wind in an Atlantic hurricane: 239 mph (107 m/s) at an altitude of 1400 meters, measured by dropsonde in Hurricane Isabel (2003).
Top surface wind in an Atlantic hurricane: 211 mph (94.4 m/s), Hurricane Gustav, Paso Real de San Diego meteorological station in the western Cuban province of Pinar del Rio, Cuba, on the afternoon of August 30, 2008.
Top wind in a tornado: 302 mph (135 m/s), measured via Doppler radar at an altitude of 100 meters (330 feet), in the Bridge Creek, Oklahoma tornado of May 3, 1999.
Top surface wind not associated with a tropical cyclone or tornado: 231 mph (103.3 m/s), April 12, 1934 on the summit of Mount Washington, New Hampshire.
Top wind in a typhoon: 191 mph (85.4 m/s) on Taiwanese Island of Lanya, Super Typhoon Ryan, Sep 22, 1995; also on island of Miyakojima, Super Typhoon Cora, Sep 5, 1966.
Top surface wind not measured on a mountain or in a tropical cyclone: 207 mph (92.5 m/s) measured in Greenland at Thule Air Force Base on March 6, 1972.
Top wind measured in a U.S. hurricane: 186 mph (83.1 m/s) measured at Blue Hill Observatory, Massachusetts, during the 1938 New England Hurricane.

References
Buchan, S.J., P.G. Black, and R.L. Cohen, 1999, "The Impact of Tropical Cyclone Olivia on Australia's Northwest Shelf", paper presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas, 3-6 May, 1999.

Black, P.G., Buchan, S.J., and R.L. Cohen, 1999, "The Tropical Cyclone Eyewall Mesovortex: A Physical Mechanism Explaining Extreme Peak Gust Occurrence in TC Olivia, 4 April 1996 on Barrow Island, Australia", paper presented at the 1999 Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas, 3-6 May, 1999.

Jeff Masters
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1. Patrap 5:35 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
A new entry,..and a new Day at Last.
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2. tornadodude 5:41 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
YES! thanks Jeff
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3. Orcasystems 5:41 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
(update) Oppps...Olivia.. not Olga.. my mistake
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5. TampaTom 5:43 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
A new entry,..and a new Day at Last.


Well, blow me down! That's one heckuva gust!
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6. natrwalkn 5:43 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Looking like a BIG snow coming to the NC Piedmont!! Can't seem to find any snowfall total maps, however.
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7. tornadodude 5:45 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting natrwalkn:
Looking like a BIG snow coming to the NC Piedmont!! Can't seem to find any snowfall total maps, however.


I don't have one, but it also looks like you may have some good ice as well
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8. Bordonaro 5:45 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
The snowfall totals for TN, NC, SC have not been posted yet, I believe due to the uncertainty of the actual path of the Low. It is now approaching S CAL right now. There is still a quwstion as to how much cold air gets pulled into it. We should have a better idea tomorrow :o).
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9. Orcasystems 5:46 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:
The snowfall totals for TN, NC, SC have not been posted yet, I believe due to the uncertainty of the actual path of the Low, and how much cold air gets pulled into it. We should have a better idea tomorrow :o).


Don't forget the Panhandle :)
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10. airman45 5:46 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
The instrument must have been well anchored!
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11. Floodman 5:47 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Thanks, Dr. M!
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12. tornadodude 5:48 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Hey Aim,

Is the U of M campus area called College Park?
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13. Floodman 5:49 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
I want to make one comment on the last blog: Matt, well done!
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14. tornadodude 5:50 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:
I want to make one comment on the last blog: Matt, well done!


thanks Ron.

It was the right thing to do
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15. AwakeInMaryland 5:50 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Happy to see the new blog, awesome new record, pics, etc.

And my entry will even by blog-related, thank you for the Portlight entry.

Please everyone please revisit NRAamy's blog; she has posted some new, very user-friendly procedures for the Portlight auctions -- start time coming really soon, now.

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And if you need any ideas for the week's meals, go to her blog. I keep making the same mistake over and over again...I go in there hungry...and then raid the frig.

RMM34667, Recipe4Relief@aol.com.
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16. tornadodude 5:52 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Aim, post 12? :P
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17. Floodman 5:53 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:


thanks Ron.

It was the right thing to do


: )
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18. TampaTom 5:56 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:
Hey Aim,

Is the U of M campus area called College Park?


I'm a Terp. The city the University of Maryland is located in is called College Park. And, when I went there (1987 - 1991), they referred to it as UMCP.

Other campuses were known as:

UMES - University of Maryland Eastern Shore
UMBC - University of Maryland Baltimore County
UMAB - University of Maryland at Baltimore

etc.

UMCP is the flagship campus...
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19. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 5:57 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
thanks doc great update good topic
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21. TampaTom 5:58 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
I'm a Yellow Jacket, same years, TampaTom :)


Can it really have been THAT many years since college? Daaaaannnnggg.....
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22. tornadodude 5:58 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting TampaTom:


I'm a Terp. The city the University of Maryland is located in is called College Park. And, when I went there (1987 - 1991), they referred to it as UMCP.

UMES - University of Maryland Eastern Shore
UMBC - University of Maryland Baltimore County
UMAB - University of Maryland at Baltimore

etc.

UMCP is the flagship campus...


ok thanks! A friend of mine from Purdue is there, and wanted to know some good places to eat around there, any suggestions?

Washington DC, Reagan National Airport
Lat: 38.86 Lon: -77.03 Elev: 16
Last Update on Jan 27, 11:52 am EST

Overcast

42 °F
(6 °C)
Humidity: 43 %
Wind Speed: SW 13 G 16 MPH
Barometer: 30.20" (1022.5 mb)
Dewpoint: 21 °F (-6 °C)
Wind Chill: 35 °F (2 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
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23. TampaTom 6:00 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:


ok thanks! A friend of mine from Purdue is there, and wanted to know some good places to eat around there, any suggestions?

Washington DC, Reagan National Airport
Lat: 38.86 Lon: -77.03 Elev: 16
Last Update on Jan 27, 11:52 am EST

Overcast

42 °F
(6 °C)
Humidity: 43 %
Wind Speed: SW 13 G 16 MPH
Barometer: 30.20" (1022.5 mb)
Dewpoint: 21 °F (-6 °C)
Wind Chill: 35 °F (2 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.


Near campus, he wants to go to the corner of Knox road and Route 1.... There are two places I can recommend (And I am pretty sure they are still there).

The first is the Santa Fe Cafe (Just north of Rte 1 on Knox). Great Mexican food and cheap beer (it is a college town, after all).

The other place is on Route 1 called R.J. Bentley's. Nice pub atmosphere... very good food (from what I can recall).

Both places are very local and are frequent campus haunts...
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24. tornadodude 6:03 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting TampaTom:


Near campus, he wants to go to the corner of Knox road and Route 1.... There are two places I can recommend (And I am pretty sure they are still there).

The first is the Santa Fe Cafe (Just north of Rte 1 on Knox). Great Mexican food and cheap beer (it is a college town, after all).

The other place is on Route 1 called R.J. Bentley's. Nice pub atmosphere... very good food (from what I can recall).

Both places are very local and are frequent campus haunts...


thanks a bunch!
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25. AwakeInMaryland 6:03 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:
Hey Aim,

Is the U of M campus area called College Park?


Dude, Dan, Flood -- I keep going in and out of blogs and it's always pre-ordained I'll be in the right one, but at the wrong time...or something like that! (:

Yes, it sure is, for the MAIN campus -- although the folks in Baltimore might disagree with me (oh, man, I do NOT want to tangle with anybody from Bal'mer -- some of them are descendants of stevedores -- seen "On the Waterfront"?

UMCP -- Univ. of MD, College Park
UMBC -- Univ. of MD, Baltimore Campus
UMUC -- Univ. of MD, University College (Huge attendance, main building in College Park, for returning, part-time, commuters, adult ed, distance learning, weekend students, military, overseas, etc.)
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26. natrwalkn 6:04 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Bordonaro:
The snowfall totals for TN, NC, SC have not been posted yet, I believe due to the uncertainty of the actual path of the Low. It is now approaching S CAL right now. There is still a quwstion as to how much cold air gets pulled into it. We should have a better idea tomorrow :o).


Yeah. Some local forecasters are stepping out on a limb and whispering some early guesses, but I think those amounts will go up. Yesterday the forecast was for us to begin as rain changing over to a mix and then eventually snow. Today it's looking more like an ALL SNOW event for the Piedmont Triad.
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27. Patrap 6:05 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
HUGE BREAKING NOLA STORY



Louisiana awarded $474.7 million in Charity Hospital dispute

By Jan Moller, The Times-Picayune
January 27, 2010, 10:12AM

A federal arbitration panel has awarded Louisiana $474.7 million in compensation for hurricane-related damage to Charity Hospital, ending a long-standing dispute with the federal government and giving the state a substantial boost in its efforts to build a new teaching hospital in lower Mid-City.


The ruling from the Civilian Board of Contract Appeals is a victory for state officials, who had been seeking $492 million. Money from the settlement will go toward construction of a 424-bed, $1.2 billion hospital that would be build adjacent to a new U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hospital.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency had valued the damage from Hurricane Katrina at $124 million and offered to settle the matter for $150 million
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28. largeeyes 6:05 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
As I said in the last blog, I want to meet the design engineer for that anemometer. How often do you see them fail just as a hurricane is approaching?
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30. Patrap 6:08 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Camille a Cat 5 in 1969 had a Gust recorded unofficially at the SeaBee Base in Long Beach,Miss of 212mph inside the Eyewall.

The instrument failed at 212 mph so the actual Max wasnt recorded if it was Higher.
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31. tornadodude 6:09 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
more snow on the way

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32. Patrap 6:11 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
The cyclone creates the meso vortices,and it is the individual meso vort,that makes the actual Higher gust within the cyclones wind field,usually in the Area of Max Convection or Active inflow Quad.



MESO-VORTICES OBSERVED BY WSR-88D IN THE EYE OF HURRICANE BERTHA


John E. Wright * and Shawn P. Bennett
National Weather Service, Carolina, Puerto Rico



1. INTRODUCTION

On 8 July 1996 Hurricane Bertha's eye moved across St Thomas and St John between 1:00 and 2:00 pm. The eye of Bertha passed 40 miles northeast of San Juan, Puerto Rico at 5:00 pm. Still, the WSR-88D detected mesoscale features in the eyewall of the category 1 hurricane. Archive level IV data were reviewed for this event.

Various researchers have published articles on the structures and mesoscale features of hurricane eyewalls. Black (1993) found that intensifying hurricanes need strong, large updrafts in the eyewall to evacuate a substantial amount of mass out of the eyewall region to support low central pressure. Black found an updraft on the inside edge of the eyewall of Hurricane Hugo with a maximum of 8 ms-1 and a downdraft with a peak of 6 ms-1. Powell and Houston (1993) suggested that a large vertical vorticity component can be produced in a very small area of a hurricane. They added that wind shear is large due to the radial gradient, especially on the inward side of the eyewall wind maximum. A study of eleven hurricanes by Black et al. (1995) found the strongest upward motion is usually located upwind of the eyewall reflectivity maximum while the strongest downward motion lies downwind of the maximum. Furthermore, Fujita (1993) suggested that hurricane swirls (small vortices) occurred in the vicinity of Hurricane Andrew's eyewall where sustained winds decreased rapidly toward the eye. Fujita speculated the swirls occurred beneath the active convective towers resulting in fields of large vorticity and convergence. Marks and Houze (1984b) found in Hurricane Debby at altitudes of 2 to 4 km, in a portion of the developing eyewall, two mesoscale wind speed maxima and a mesoscale vortex were superimposed in the hurricane-scale circulation. Schubert and Guinn (1993) found through numerical model simulations that the polygonal eyewalls in some hurricanes are due to the barotropic instability associated with annular regions of high potential vorticity.

This study will suggest that in Hurricane Bertha some synoptic scale energy was transferred to the mesoscale, resulting in formation of meso-vortices on the inner edge of the eyewall. Then, the meso-vortices fed energy back to the synoptic scale through intensification of convection in the eyewall.

2. REFLECTIVITY DATA

Between 1811 and 1817 UTC a meso-vortex developed just north of the coast of St Thomas. It appeared as a 20-25 dBZ echo within the eye of the hurricane and moved east toward the eyewall. Figure 1 shows echoes associated with the meso-vortex circulation, which intensified to 40-44 dBZ by 1835 UTC and 45-49 dBZ by 1840 dBZ.
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33. drg0dOwnCountry 6:12 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
No Need to Wait (or Pay) for Climate Technology
The Global Innovation Commons is a massive interactive archive of energy-saving technologies already in the public domain.

Large tech companies like to claim that they need broad patents to encourage their investment in innovative new technologies. And they are poised to make a fortune by selling patent licenses for new “green technologies” designed to abate carbon emissions.

But David E. Martin, an intellectual property activist who works with many developing countries, argues that a great many green technologies are already in the public domain and ready to be developed. They just need to be identified and used.

Martin’s brilliant and subversive innovation, launched earlier this month, is called the Global Innovation Commons (GIC). The project is described in a cover article in the German magazine Der Spiegel called "Patent Lies: Who Says Saving the Planet Has to Cost a Fortune?"

The Global Innovation Commons is a massive interactive archive of energy-saving technologies whose patents have expired, been abandoned, or simply have no protection. The idea is to let entrepreneurs and national governments query the database on a country-by-country basis to identify helpful technologies that are in the public domain. Once identified, these technologies for energy, water, and agriculture are prime candidates for being developed at lower costs than patented technologies.

The World Bank is a partner on this project, along with the International Finance Corporation’s infoDev unit. The World Bank has estimated that the technologies in the GIC database could save more than $2 trillion in potential license fees. The Global Innovation Commons essentially seeks to bring the advantages of the open-source software development model—open participation, faster innovation, greater reliability, cheaper costs—to technologies that are claimed to be patented.

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Der Spiegel notes that the Global Information Commons database represents such a huge advance because it aggregates so many different patent-free technologies from so many different parts of the world:

[Martin’s] custom-made software and a vast server are programmed to trawl and compare hundreds of thousands of files containing patent information from what would seem an incongruous list of places: Papua New Guinea, Berlin, the Brazilian rain forest, New York. Some of these patents are current; others have expired. What Martin—and those who work with him at M-CAM—say they found is that one in three patents registered today on energy-saving technology duplicate gadgets that were first dreamed up in the wake of the 1970s oil crisis and are now freely available.

Martin says that a great many patents are not novel at all. They simply duplicate innovations that were made decades ago. But patent applications often disguise this fact by using colorful and complicated language. Overworked government patent examiners, struggling with limited resources and seeking to avoid legal hassles, often grant new patents that are not truly warranted.

Read full article
http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/no-need-to-wait-or-pay-for-climate-technology
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34. tornadodude 6:12 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
thanks for the info Pat, that is really cool/interesting
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36. AwakeInMaryland 6:17 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
T-Dude, I agree with TampaTom's restaurant choices. I just went to see if the 94th Aero Squadron restaurant was still open at the College Park Airport (not walking distance, but used to be a blast...you could watch and listen to the local air traffic).

So sad to see it's closed. I'm sure it was a victim of the DC Beltway NO-FLY zone, as was the airport -- therefore another sad local economic victim of 9-11.
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37. Patrap 6:19 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:


so that would normally occur on the right front quadrant?


In the N Hemisphere,but not always,..as Some storms can and do have it occur in the Other Quads.Usually,in my obs,this occurs closer to Landfall,or that could be due to better radar nearer the coast.

Dr. Masters or someone may could elaborate on that.

A good subject maybe for a Soph or Fresh to study thru their Senior Year and expound on, though.

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38. NEwxguy 6:19 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Thanks Dr. M. Curious what the temperature was at the time of this wind gust.Can't find any record of the temperature.Gives a whole new meaning to wind chill factor.
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39. TampaTom 6:20 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
T-Dude, I agree with TampaTom's restaurant choices. I just went to see if the 94th Aero Squadron restaurant was still open at the College Park Airport (not walking distance, but used to be a blast...you could watch and listen to the local air traffic).

So sad to see it's closed. I'm sure it was a victim of the DC Beltway NO-FLY zone, as was the airport -- and another sad local victim of 9-11.


That place was awesome. My mom took me there for dinner the night before graduation...
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40. tornadodude 6:22 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:


In the N Hemisphere,but not always,..as Some storms can and do have it occur in the Other Quads.Usually,in my obs,this occurs closer to Landfall,or that could be due to better radar nearer the coast.

Dr. Masters or someone may could elaborate on that.

A good subject maybe for a Soph or Fresh to study thru their Senior Year and expound on, though.



oh ok thanks a bunch man, may look into it for a paper, peer reviewed of course
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41. hydrus 6:24 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Camille a Cat 5 in 1969 had a Gust recorded unofficially at the SeaBee Base in Long Beach,Miss of 212mph inside the Eyewall.

The instrument failed at 212 mph so the actual Max wasnt recorded if it was Higher.
253-mph in a tropical cyclone taxes satisfactory verbal description. That is almost an F-5 on the old Fujita scale.
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42. Floodman 6:25 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:
T-Dude, I agree with TampaTom's restaurant choices. I just went to see if the 94th Aero Squadron restaurant was still open at the College Park Airport (not walking distance, but used to be a blast...you could watch and listen to the local air traffic).

So sad to see it's closed. I'm sure it was a victim of the DC Beltway NO-FLY zone, as was the airport -- therefore another sad local economic victim of 9-11.


94th Aerosquadron was a chain; we had one in St Louis that closed in the late 80s, early 90s. I'm sure that that one closed due to the neighborhood changing though. I used to love going in for a few drinks after work and the food was great
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43. tornadodude 6:27 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


94th Aerosquadron was a chain; we had one in St Louis that closed in the late 80s, early 90s. I'm sure that that one closed due to the neighborhood changing though. I used to love going in for a few drinks after work and the food was great


there are actually only 4 of them, well 3 now

link
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44. AwakeInMaryland 6:28 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting TampaTom:


That place was awesome. My mom took me there for dinner the night before graduation...


Our degrees of separation are down to what? about 1&1/2?? So much fun! I graduated 9 years before you...but was "older" returning student...LOL...in my 20's. Hilarious to think that was "older," now.

ADD: What WAS that hole-in-the wall on Rte. 1? Make that the hole-in-the- uh, regurgitation - trough?
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45. TampaTom 6:30 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting AwakeInMaryland:


Our degrees of separation are down to what? about 1&1/2?? So much fun! I graduated 9 years before you...but was "older" returning student...LOL...in my 20's. Hilarious to think that was "older," now.


We just need to throw Kevin Bacon in there, and we're all good...
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46. CybrTeddy 6:30 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
231-mph NH wind gust is no longer world's fastest

Techincally, the wind gust in Oklahoma on May 3rd, 1999 is the highest wind speed recorded (316 mph if I remember correct in the F-5 that hit there?)
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47. tornadodude 6:32 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
231-mph NH wind gust is no longer world's fastest

Techincally, the wind gust in Oklahoma on May 3rd, 1999 is the highest wind speed recorded (316 mph if I remember correct in the F-5 that hit there?)


It was 318 mph, but I think it was Doppler based


Jeff discusses it above from this site: http://wmo.asu.edu/tornado-highest-recorded-wind-speed-tornado-doppler-radar
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48. MILLERTIME1 6:35 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
DR.Masters... Bridge Creek tornado was May 3rd 1999.
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49. eyesontheweather 6:37 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Anyone....I have been recieving varying degrees regarding the impending "ICE STORM" here in NE Oklahoma. Local Mets say it is yet to be determined as the low off of CA has not established that track it will follow; Where as TWC is saying it could be 1/2 to 1 in of ice in this area. Anyone with conclusive info on this ice event?
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50. Floodman 6:38 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:


It was 318 mph, but I think it was Doppler based


You are correct, sir...being doppler based the margin for error takes it out of the running for the record
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51. tornadodude 6:38 PM GMT on January 27, 2010    

Winter Storm Warning

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TULSA OK
1123 AM CST WED JAN 27 2010

ARZ001-002-010-011-OKZ054>071-280130-
/O.CON.KTSA.WS.W.0001.100128T1200Z-100129T1800Z/
BENTON-CARROLL-WASHINGTON AR-MADISON-OSAGE-WASHINGTON OK-NOWATA-
CRAIG-OTTAWA-PAWNEE-TULSA-ROGERS-MAYES-DELAWARE-CREEK-OKFUSKEE-
OKMULGEE-WAGONER-CHEROKEE-ADAIR-MUSKOGEE-MCINTOSH-
1123 AM CST WED JAN 27 2010

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO NOON
CST FRIDAY...

A WINTER STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

FOR THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES...
* IN OKLAHOMA...CHEROKEE...ADAIR...CREEK...OKFUSKEE...OKMULGEE...
WAGONER...TULSA...ROGERS...MAYES...DELAWARE...PAWNEE...OTTAWA...
WASHINGTON...OSAGE...CRAIG...NOWATA...MCINTOSH AND MUSKOGEE. IN
ARKANSAS...WASHINGTON...MADISON...BENTON AND CARROLL.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER...
* A MIXTURE OF SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN WILL SPREAD ACROSS
NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND FAR NORTHWEST ARKANSAS AFTER SUNRISE
THURSDAY. THE PRECIPITATION WILL BECOME HEAVY LATE THURSDAY
AFTERNOON THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. A TRANSITION TO SNOW IS
EXPECTED AFTER SUNRISE FRIDAY WITH THE RISK OF ADDITIONAL
ACCUMULATIONS ENDING BY LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

* DANGEROUS ICE ACCUMULATIONS OF ONE HALF TO ONE INCH ARE LIKELY
ACROSS MUCH OF THE WARNING AREA. FROM 1 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW AND
SLEET ACCUMULATION IS ALSO EXPECTED BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON...WITH
THE HIGHER AMOUNTS OF SLEET AND SNOW NEAR THE KANSAS AND
MISSOURI BORDERS.

IMPACTS...
* TRAVEL WILL BECOME VERY HAZARDOUS OR IMPOSSIBLE. POWER OUTAGES
ARE EXPECTED ALONG THE CORRIDOR OF HEAVIEST ICING. THE
POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR POWER OUTAGES OF ONE TO FIVE DAYS...WITH
MORE RURAL AREAS POSSIBLY WITHOUT POWER FOR OVER A WEEK.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
* DELAY TRAVEL AND STAY HOME IF POSSIBLE UNTIL CONDITIONS IMPROVE.

* STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO...COMMERCIAL RADIO OR
TELEVISION FOR THE LATEST INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS WEATHER
EVENT. ADDITIONAL WEATHER INFORMATION CAN ALSO BE FOUND AT:
WEATHER.GOV/TULSA.

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