Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Subtropical Depression 17 forms; monsoon rains kill over 100 in Asia
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:04 PM GMT on October 06, 2010 +3
Subtropical Depression Seventeen formed this morning, approximately 200 miles north of Puerto Rico. The storm is not a threat to bring high winds to any land areas, but will produce heavy rains over Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, the northern Lesser Antilles, and perhaps the eastern Dominican Republic. Radar estimated rainfall over Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands (Figure 1) shows rainfall amounts in excess of eight inches have fallen near St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands, and the St. Thomas Airport officially measured 6.61" yesterday--its 5th wettest day in history. St. Thomas has picked up an additional 1.48" today as of 9am AST. Not surprisingly, Flash Flood Warnings are posted for the island. Weather radar out of Puerto Rico shows that a large area of heavy rain will continue to affect the Virgin Islands and eastern Puerto Rico this morning. Martinique radar shows somewhat less activity over the Lesser Antilles.

Satellite loops show STD 17 has a broad, somewhat ill-defined center of circulation, with the heaviest thunderstorms 50 or so miles from the center. This is characteristic of a subtropical storm, which is a hybrid between a tropical storm and an extratropical storm. An upper level low pressure system to the west of STD 17 has pumped cold, dry air aloft into STD 17, keeping it from being fully tropical. As the trough gradually weakens today and Thursday, STD 17 should become fully tropical and intensify into Tropical Storm Otto. Steering currents favor Otto being lifted northwards and then northeastwards out to sea by Friday.


Figure 1. Radar-estimated rainfall from Subtropical Depression Seventeen over Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands shows that rains in excess of eight inches (white colors) have fallen near St. Thomas.

Elsewhere in the tropics
Most of the models indicate the possibility that a strong tropical disturbance or tropical depression forming in the Southern Caribbean, off the coast of Nicaragua, 5 - 7 days from now.

Monsoon flooding kills 83 in Indonesia, 28 in Vietnam
Heavy monsoon rains triggered flash flooding in a remote section of Indonesia this week that killed at least 83 people. Another 68 people are missing, and 3,000 homeless. In Vietnam, heavy rains of up to 51" (1300 mm) have fallen since Friday, resulting in river flooding that killed at least 28 people. Over 34,000 people are homeless from the floods, which hit five provinces from Nghe An to Thua Thien-Hue, a swath of territory starting some 300 km (180 miles) south of Hanoi and stretching south. Heavy monsoon rains also hit nearby Hainen Island in China, forcing the evacuation of 64,000 people.

Jeff Masters
Categories: Hurricane
  Permalink | A A A
Reader Comments
Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted
Viewing: 251 - 301

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21Blog Index

252. JLPR2 5:49 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting BlizzardBeast99:



And you fell for it, thats a troll impersonating Jeff
Member Since: September 4, 2007 Posts: 7 Comments: 7534
253. GoodOleBudSir 5:50 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:
Sorry, but I am now reporting people that state an untrue fact about the season or storm. If they can't back up their "facts" then I will hit this "!"

Enough is enough, we have lost many good bloggers from all of this.


Why do you have to tell us.....just do it
Member Since: July 30, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 261
254. Floodman 5:51 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting BlizzardBeast99:

Seriously? You DO SEE that through to the west of it, right? and its a Sub tropical depression, soon to be a storm, but it will barely be a tropical storm. not to mention its movement to the north west into that trough, might i add to this. i am sure hurricane andrew was a different story, because of the time of year, idk about a month and a half ago 18 years ago. but considering that time, usually there isnt any blocking factor to prevent a storm from striking land that time in the season. now as of this moment we tend to see throughs that develope and hang off the coast most of the time. so unless sub trop. storm otto can turn south and track across cuba then go north to florida, and magically go through explosive strengthening, which is wishful thinking, but untill that happens, just let noaa do their job by telling us all where the storms are going. because i dont know about you, but i do not have a crystal ball...


This is a troll...easy...wait for it...
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919
256. oracle28 5:55 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:
1990-1999, only 4 years without a named storm in October in the Western Caribbean.


I said Major, not named storm. There is a difference, you do realize that, right?
Member Since: July 25, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 584
257. Floodman 5:55 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Wow, it's official: I've worn the "g" and the "n" off the Ignore button
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 10 Comments: 9919
258. afj3 5:56 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

I saw it. Looks like a system sitting just north of Honduras 174 hours out.


Season still has a way to go...
Member Since: June 10, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 339
261. WeatherfanPR 5:59 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
well, the rain never came at Villa Fontana, Carolina, PR.
Member Since: August 23, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 1516
262. oracle28 6:00 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:
1990-1999, only 4 years without a named storm in October in the Western Caribbean.


How many years without a major in that timeframe? Which is what I said, no more MAJORS this year.
Member Since: July 25, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 584
263. rmbjoe1954 6:01 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
We could see monsoonal storms forming- the elongated types with no COC that trues up to a tropical storm. At least that is what I am hoping. Of course, tropical storm formation is very possible through December as the Caribbean SST is still warm enough to sustain tropical systems.

But what do I know. We will soon find out. So let's enjoy the break for the time being.
Member Since: June 16, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 754
265. JLPR2 6:02 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting oracle28:


How many years without a major in that timeframe? Which is what I said, no more MAJORS this year.


Not impossible to get a major, but what you say makes sense since it is more unlikely than likely.
Member Since: September 4, 2007 Posts: 7 Comments: 7534
269. reedzone 6:03 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting oracle28:


How many years without a major in that timeframe? Which is what I said, no more MAJORS this year.


Which is CLEARLY your opinion! We may in fact see a major.
Member Since: July 1, 2008 Posts: 13 Comments: 7249
271. 1900hurricane 6:04 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting miamiheat:
quoting NCHurricane2009
Why did it suddently get quiet on this blog, LOL?

cause most of the bloggers in here are Bastardi's echoes ,USA & Florida landfalls WHISCASTERS ,,,

And then there are people like me who are getting eaten alive by college academics and can hardly find time to blog at this time of year. Now, if you excuse me, I have some differential equations to be doing... unless someone else want to volunteer to do them for me?
Member Since: August 2, 2006 Posts: 43 Comments: 10456
272. LoveThemCanes 6:05 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Hi newbie here! I bumped into this blog several months ago and have been lurking since. Thanks as I am learning lots through some of your posts. I remember someone posted some links that were good for beginners. Can someone repost?
Member Since: September 28, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 48
273. JLPR2 6:05 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
I wonder if we will get a wacky out of season hurricane, like:

Hurricane Alice, 1954-1955
Member Since: September 4, 2007 Posts: 7 Comments: 7534
274. HurricaneDean07 6:06 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
We will likely see Tropical Storm Otto in the next advisory.
Member Since: October 3, 2010 Posts: 40 Comments: 4129
275. Thaale 6:07 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Caribbean SSTs are never the limiting factor. By that I mean that as Dr. Masters pointed out on Hurricane havene a few weeks back, SSTs in the Caribbean are high enough to support tropical development year-round - if shear and other factors would permit, which of course is not the case in the winter and spring months.
Member Since: October 19, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 308
276. Hurricanes101 6:07 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
what is a WHIS caster?


Member Since: March 10, 2010 Posts: 1 Comments: 6930
279. BlizzardBeast99 6:08 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


This is a troll...easy...wait for it...

explain the means of troll... because from the way this is shaping up, first, the forward motion of the storm almost 10 mph to the northwest into the very large trough not far from the storm also competed with the size if the storm, which isnt very large, and also the atmosphere that it is spinning in. That atmosphere does not have nearly the energy that the carrubean has, and thus even if it was a troll, it stands a much better chance by being sheared apart than developing into this monster. You know, i am not looking to purposely burst bubbles on here, but just because nicole was a sleeping giant does not mean that this will be the case,and that this will keep happening until nov.30th or later., i mean they formed in different ways and their tracks will be much different. if you want to see your troll than like Jeff Masters says, wait 5-7 days out in the southern carribean, cause the south west atlantic has had it from the recent hurricanes like Earl that leeched most energy that was there.
Member Since: September 27, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 7
280. katadman 6:09 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
What's up, Flood? Cool with crisp clear skies here! Gorgeous fall weather. Same with you?
Member Since: September 7, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 1081
281. robert88 6:09 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Looks like the US potential landfall for a hurricane is going to have to wait until next season. I don't think the GOM or FL have anything to worry about since the westerlies are going to set in for the majority of the month. Most likely we see weak systems like TD 17 here on out.

""
Member Since: May 22, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 877
282. islander101010 6:09 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
basesloaded one out and dont score thats like a cat 2 making a direct hit tampa doom
Member Since: September 11, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 3078
283. Patrap 6:10 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Portlight Disaster Relief

As StormJunkie and portlight assessed the situation in N. Carolina,,,we came across this Older woman who can use a hand from us.


So I ask everyone to consider helping us help her.

We can change Lives for the better,,and thats what were gonna do here.

Cuz we can.


Dayle White is a widow from Jacksonville, NC, who lost about 60% of her belongings and her landlord is unsure when or if she'll be able to return to her home. Her renters' insurance (Nationwide) is denying her coverage due to lack of flood coverage. She is on a limited fixed income. She is in need of a place to live...as well as clothes and furniture. We want to help her get another apartment, as well as some clothing and furniture. She is particularly upset over the loss of her recliner chair, which was destroyed.

Please help as you can. And know that Ms. White will be grateful.

We are identifying others in need and will post their stories as things come into focus.



Portlight 7:24 PM CDT on October 05, 2010

Y'all rock!! We have enough in hand and pledged to get her some clothes and replace her recliner...and a good start on a security deposit on a place...


portlight.org


Member Since: July 3, 2005 Posts: 377 Comments: 113014
284. myway 6:11 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:


Which is CLEARLY your opinion! We may in fact see a major.


May not. His opinion is just as acurate as your opinion @ this point.
Member Since: May 28, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 443
287. BlizzardBeast99 6:14 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
thanks, that was the map i needed to post for evidence toward my disagreement.
Member Since: September 27, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 7
288. Grothar 6:14 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:


HA HA that's awesome!

I still see that the GFS is developing something in the western Caribbean in about 2 weeks---the storm develops differently in every run. But there's almost always something. Season not over yet.

Too bad the P storm isn't Pauline, then we could talk about her perils ;)


Your're too young to remember that!
Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 58 Comments: 19682
290. caneswatch 6:17 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


Your're too young to remember that!


I'm not :P
Member Since: October 8, 2008 Posts: 14 Comments: 4479
292. txjac 6:20 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Usually I'm confused by all the pretty graphs, charts and models ...

Today I find myself more confused by the appearance of a shopping cart?
Member Since: April 24, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 1614
294. CitikatzSouthFL 6:24 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
what is a WHIS caster?



dyslexic
Member Since: August 14, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 295
295. hurricanejunky 6:26 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Afternoon all!
GOES Satellite August / September 2010

This GOES East Infrared Hurricane Sector animation is a long loop that shows all of August and September 2010. This video features a slew of tropical storms and hurricanes, none of which made official landfall along the U.S. coastline. How many can you correctly identify? Set to the music of Gustav Holtz's symphony - "The Planets."
Member Since: August 28, 2006 Posts: 6 Comments: 2877
296. reedzone 6:27 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting hurricanejunky:
Afternoon all!
GOES Satellite August / September 2010

This GOES East Infrared Hurricane Sector animation is a long loop that shows all of August and September 2010. This video features a slew of tropical storms and hurricanes, none of which made official landfall along the U.S. coastline. How many can you correctly identify? Set to the music of Gustav Holtz's symphony - "The Planets."


Afternoon John,
I posted a new blog concerning my prediction on the rest of the continued active Tropics.
Member Since: July 1, 2008 Posts: 13 Comments: 7249
297. hurricanejunky 6:28 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Things are awfully quiet compared to what I thought they'd be right now...gorgeous weather here in Fort Myers though! Almost clear blue skies, high in the low to mid 80's with a stiff breeze. Lows in the upper 50's/low 60's at night...autumn is teasing us!
Member Since: August 28, 2006 Posts: 6 Comments: 2877
299. hurricanejunky 6:33 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting reedzone:


Afternoon John,
I posted a new blog concerning my prediction on the rest of the continued active Tropics.


Good afternoon to you too Allan! Nice update! Yes Wilma was a BAD storm! It seems that back when she was moving away from Mexico and toward Florida nobody seemed to think she'd re-develop into a major. I don't know how they didn't expect it...SE FL was caught completely unprepared for Cat 3/4 winds and alot of the major damage occurred down there. I don't know how they didn't take it more seriously...
Member Since: August 28, 2006 Posts: 6 Comments: 2877
300. RENONV 6:34 PM GMT on October 06, 2010    
Quoting BlizzardBeast99:

explain the means of troll... because from the way this is shaping up, first, the forward motion of the storm almost 10 mph to the northwest into the very large trough not far from the storm also competed with the size if the storm, which isnt very large, and also the atmosphere that it is spinning in. That atmosphere does not have nearly the energy that the carrubean has, and thus even if it was a troll, it stands a much better chance by being sheared apart than developing into this monster. You know, i am not looking to purposely burst bubbles on here, but just because nicole was a sleeping giant does not mean that this will be the case,and that this will keep happening until nov.30th or later., i mean they formed in different ways and their tracks will be much different. if you want to see your troll than like Jeff Masters says, wait 5-7 days out in the southern carribean, cause the south west atlantic has had it from the recent hurricanes like Earl that leeched most energy that was there.


I’m fairly confident Floodman was referring to this kind of a troll “In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Member Since: July 29, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 17

Viewing: 251 - 301

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21Blog Index

New Comment
Community Standards Policy Comments will take a few seconds to appear.
Post Your Comments
Please sign in to post comments.
Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.
About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Community Activity