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Invest 91L reorganizing; The heat is on (again)
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:16 PM GMT on August 01, 2011 +21
Invest 91L, which is located near 14°N, 57°W, is showing signs of reorganization after a pretty rough weekend. On Saturday, the wave looked ripe to develop with organized convection and the hint of a surface circulation. On Sunday a Hurricane Hunter and NOAA G9 flew into the system only to find it disorganized and negatively influenced by the burst of convection that sprouted on its western edge. Since then, low-level circulation has at least strengthened, if not consolidated, and residents of the Lesser Antilles should be prepared for tropical storm advisories to be posted on short notice. Satellite loops show decent thunderstorm activity and some mid-level circulation, and continued bursts of thunderstorms to the southwest of the invest region. The wave is surrounded by moderately strong wind shear (30-40 knots) on both the north and the south sides, which could delay development. Also, a large mass of dry, Saharan air continues to linger to 91L's north. In a mission this morning, Hurricane Hunters found winds close to tropical storm strength, but no signs of a closed surface circulation—just plenty of winds from the east or southeast. The next mission is scheduled for 2pm EDT, and they will continue every six hours if the system remains a threat.


Figure 1. Visible satellite of Invest 91L at 10:30am EDT as it moves west toward the Lesser Antilles.

Forecast For 91L
Development will probably occur in the next day or two, and the National Hurricane Center is giving the wave a 90% chance in the next 48 hours. The question now is where will it go, and how long will it remain a tropical cyclone. Models are split today, although still leaning toward an Atlantic recurving solution. In the camp of a Gulf of Mexico track are the CMC and the UKMET models. The GFS and the ECMWF are still in favor of the system tracking northwest toward Florida (and coming close) before taking a turn to the northeast. The NOGAPS model is resolving a Florida landfall in this morning's run, and the HWRF hints that it might like that solution, as well, at the end of its run. The GFDL remains conservative and forecasts that the system will turn north and northeast well before making any connection with the U.S. coast. It is notable that although there is still much disagreement on where this system will go, the models have been trending west in their tracks over the past few days. However, it is extremely difficult to nail down a track before a cyclone has even developed. Something we know for sure is that 91L is a threat to the Lesser Antilles and the Caribbean islands including Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, and the Bahamas.

In terms of intensity, both the GFDL and the HWRF are thinking this will eventually get to hurricane strength once it develops, although neither are forecasting it to become stronger than a category 1. SHIPS (which tracks 91L into the far eastern Gulf of Mexico) brings the system up to a category 1 hurricane, and the LGEM does as well, but is slower in its intensification. General consensus this morning is that 91L will max out somewhere between a moderate tropical cyclone and a moderate category 1 hurricane. Again, this is something that is difficult to predict before development itself occurs.

The Heat Is On (Again)

Someone turned the furnace on again in the central U.S., although many would argue that it was never actually turned off after the last heat wave. Heat advisories have been issued from southern Louisiana to North Dakota. Temperatures are expected to climb to 115°F in the central Plains through Wednesday, and heat index values will soar again. Oklahoma has now seen over a month of high temperatures hitting at least 100°. Some reprieve could come later this week.


Figure 2. Weather advisories issued by the National Weather Service. Heat-related advisories are pink.

Angela
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501. quakeman55 6:53 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting HurricaneKing:


Honestly it looks the most organized it has in a while. You can see the mlc disappearing into the outflow shear mix like dust in the wind and convection developing in bands to the east of the llc that was racing ahead earlier. It's going from looking like a pure mess to just a sheared off dry air infused tropical storm/depression. ((ie less of a mess but still very messy))


I close my eyes
Only for a moment and the moment's gone
All my dreams
Pass before my eyes a curiosity

Dust in the wind
All they are is dust in the wind

Just had to do it...lol
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502. kuppenskup 6:53 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
You guys seeing what Im seeing? I think we Officially have Tropical Storm Emily.
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503. SLU 6:53 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
The NHC agrees with me.

955

WHXX01 KWBC 011850

CHGHUR

TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

1850 UTC MON AUG 1 2011



DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.

PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE

AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.



ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR



DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL912011) 20110801 1800 UTC



...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...

110801 1800 110802 0600 110802 1800 110803 0600



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 15.3N 60.5W 15.7N 63.0W 16.2N 65.4W 16.8N 67.7W

BAMD 15.3N 60.5W 15.5N 62.9W 15.7N 65.0W 16.1N 66.8W

BAMM 15.3N 60.5W 15.4N 63.0W 15.8N 65.3W 16.2N 67.3W

LBAR 15.3N 60.5W 16.0N 63.2W 17.0N 65.8W 18.0N 68.2W

SHIP 30KTS 35KTS 41KTS 48KTS

DSHP 30KTS 35KTS 41KTS 48KTS



...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...

110803 1800 110804 1800 110805 1800 110806 1800



LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON

BAMS 17.6N 70.1W 19.5N 74.3W 21.1N 77.6W 22.8N 80.4W

BAMD 16.7N 68.6W 19.3N 72.0W 21.4N 75.0W 22.4N 78.4W

BAMM 16.8N 69.2W 19.1N 72.7W 21.3N 75.7W 23.0N 78.7W

LBAR 19.3N 70.1W 23.1N 73.0W 26.6N 74.0W 28.1N 74.9W

SHIP 54KTS 61KTS 67KTS 72KTS

DSHP 41KTS 45KTS 51KTS 56KTS



...INITIAL CONDITIONS...

LATCUR = 15.3N LONCUR = 60.5W DIRCUR = 290DEG SPDCUR = 18KT

LATM12 = 14.3N LONM12 = 56.7W DIRM12 = 295DEG SPDM12 = 18KT

LATM24 = 13.3N LONM24 = 54.0W

WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 25KT

CENPRS = 1008MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M

RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM



$$

NNNN



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504. quakeman55 6:53 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
SFRM this found this

57 knots
(~ 65.5 mph)

Either contaminated or from a thunderstorm wind gust.
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505. Tazmanian 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting kuppenskup:
You guys seeing what Im seeing? I think we Officially have Tropical Storm Emily.



nop no closeed low so no TS
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506. 7544 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting kuppenskup:
You guys seeing what Im seeing? I think we Officially have Tropical Storm Emily.


let me guess llc they should rename this one sybil
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507. DFWjc 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting islander101010:
that little vortex out front is worrisome


that spin on the NW side?
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508. RitaEvac 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
You can see the mid vort system off to the east hand the baton off to the main LLC off to the west. Western LLC is the Emily we've all been waiting for.

Handing the baton off to more western circulation:



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509. MiamiHurricanes09 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
AL, 91, 2011080118, , BEST, 0, 153N, 605W, 30, 1008, LO,
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510. VAbeachhurricanes 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
wait a second.... wait a second... encountering a wind shift from se to e, lets see if it turns to ne...
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512. cwf1069 6:54 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
I've been here since 2004, and made my first account around 2009, then I forgot password, after a virus in my computer, lost my handle picture, but still here. It doesnt matter.
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513. nrtiwlnvragn 6:55 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
AL 91 2011080118 BEST 0 153N 605W 30 1008 LO
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514. HurricaneKing 6:55 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting quakeman55:


I close my eyes
Only for a moment and the moment's gone
All my dreams
Pass before my eyes a curiosity

Dust in the wind
All they are is dust in the wind

Just had to do it...lol


Was hoping someone would catch that.
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515. HurricaneDean07 6:55 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
I dont get why people are freaking out about the T# being 2.5, it clearly is stardardized by intensity found in the storm which is 45 mph, 1008 MB...
NOT BY ORGANIZATION STANDARDS
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516. Seflhurricane 6:55 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Time: 18:42:30Z
Coordinates: 14.6167N 59.45W
Acft. Static Air Press: 975.7 mb (~ 28.81 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 292 meters (~ 958 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1009.2 mb (~ 29.80 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 119° at 35 knots (From the ESE at ~ 40.2 mph)
Air Temp: 19.8°C (~ 67.6°F)
Dew Pt: 15.7°C (~ 60.3°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 35 knots (~ 40.2 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 49 knots (~ 56.3 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 21 mm/hr (~ 0.83 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data
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517. angiest 6:56 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting Fleetfox:

Anybody notice this? Any of you experts care to make comparisons? 1900 Storm vs. 91L?


Link


91L is generally to the south of 1900's track.
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518. HurricaneSwirl 6:56 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Lol recon just found like 5 ~55 kt readings the last HDOB. They all have a ~1.5 in/hr rain rate though, so while they technically aren't suspect, they probably are suspect. (storm downdrafts)
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519. SLU 6:57 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
30kts is too low though. More like at least 40kts sounds more realistic.
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520. midgulfmom 6:57 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


it is gonna pull off around bermuda giving a false sense of security and then really quick flatten out and back up back to the west and cause a blocking ridge...idk why it is in my head...even drempt it last night...saw the whole map lol
Afternnon all. Check out the Betsy Track of '65. I'd post it if I knew how sorry. Crazy ... and sounds similiar to what you describe.
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521. thedawnawakening3 6:57 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
I see quite an unorganized tropical low pressure system right now. The decoupled nature of the low is likely adding to storm relative wind shear effecting both the low and mid level centers of circulation. Right now it should take awhile before these centers stack on top of one another. Right now shear is a little rough and depending upon the nature of the development of the UL Anticyclone, whether or not this becomes an intense tropical storm.
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522. BoroDad17 6:57 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Recon obs not being flagged right now for some reason, when they obviously should be.
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523. reedzone 6:57 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
AL 91 2011080118 BEST 0 153N 605W 30 1008 LO


LO?? Isn't it normally DS?
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524. RitaEvac 6:58 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Jessica shouldn't you be at the beach or something?
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525. HurricaneDean07 6:58 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Taz, for one thing 65 mph winds are not doubt contaminated(Look at rainfall rates, or if is denoted as inaccurate), Recon found 50 to 60 mph winds looping around the invest and all of those winds were contaminated with rainfall rates of .6+ inches per hours.

Winds currently have been found at 40 mph all over the system, though there has been many NON CONTAMINATED dropsondes that found 45 mph winds...
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526. quakeman55 6:58 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting HurricaneKing:


Was hoping someone would catch that.

Lol, reminds me of that episode of Family Guy where Peter won a day of golf with OJ Simpson and he didn't believe he was a murderer until Joe told him to do some "soul searching" around town to Dust in the Wind. Was a good one. haha
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527. BobinTampa 6:58 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting Fleetfox:

Anybody notice this? Any of you experts care to make comparisons? 1900 Storm vs. 91L?


Link



Grothar was the only one alive for the 1900 Storm but I don't see him on here today.

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529. DellOperator 6:59 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting aspectre:
Patrap "That's why the official sources NEVER us a "Pre" term,nor a List Name before its designated.
Its confusing,and irresponsible for bloggers to do it here.
"

I agree wholeheartedly... with an exception.
I think that when one is discussing storms that have occurred in the past, eg Alex, using 'preAlex' is valid because it is less confusing than using either an AL# or a TD#.

The NHC does something similar. Once a TropicalStorm is Named, the name is kept through a drop to depression status: eg TS.Alex became TD.Alex then TS.Alex again.
I don't think the NHC would object to referring to a stage in Don's life cycle as "preDon" or "exDon"



Ivan in 2004 is a good example of a system retaining it's name. It made 3 land falls and 2 "sea falls".
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530. Seflhurricane 6:59 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
as i said earlier Recon is not finding the west winds and looks to me we will not have Emily until tomorrow or late tonight at the earliest
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531. nrtiwlnvragn 6:59 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
185530 1500N 06006W 9757 00282 0075 +240 +215 124018 019 015 001 00

1007.5 mb, still SSE wind
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532. VAbeachhurricanes 6:59 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Time: 18:55:00Z
Coordinates: 14.9833N 60.0833W
Acft. Static Air Press: 976.2 mb (~ 28.83 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 278 meters (~ 912 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1007.5 mb (~ 29.75 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 130° at 17 knots (From the SE at ~ 19.5 mph)
Air Temp: 24.0°C (~ 75.2°F)
Dew Pt: 21.5°C (~ 70.7°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 18 knots (~ 20.7 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 13 knots (~ 14.9 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr (~ 0.08 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data

1007.5mb lowest ive seen
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534. HurricaneDean07 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
This is the moment of truth everyone!
Recon right on top of 91L's LLC, and they have already Cleared the North, and East side as a Closed Circulation, last half to GO!!
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535. BoroDad17 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
1007.5, they are very close. Lowest pressure yet.
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536. Patrap 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
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537. NICycloneChaser 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Well, recon has ignored that wind direction swing and continued northwest. With the swing and a pressure reading of 1008mb, that is a tad annoying.
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538. Hurricanes12 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
Time: 18:55:00Z
Coordinates: 14.9833N 60.0833W
Acft. Static Air Press: 976.2 mb (~ 28.83 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 278 meters (~ 912 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1007.5 mb (~ 29.75 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 130° at 17 knots (From the SE at ~ 19.5 mph)
Air Temp: 24.0°C (~ 75.2°F)
Dew Pt: 21.5°C (~ 70.7°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 18 knots (~ 20.7 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 13 knots (~ 14.9 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr (~ 0.08 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data

1007.5mb lowest ive seen


Yup, that's the lowest so far.
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539. WeatherNerdPR 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Good Afternoon, 91L still 91L, ugh.
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540. TropicalAnalystwx13 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Ours new station says we have Emily...

That doesn't seem accurate.
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541. Tazmanian 7:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
1007.5 mb
(~ 29.75 inHg)
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542. RitaEvac 7:01 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
hmmm, wonder where clouburst is,
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543. Patrap 7:01 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
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544. nrtiwlnvragn 7:01 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting reedzone:


LO?? Isn't it normally DS?


You mean DB. It has been classified as a LO for days. DB is more often used with just a tropical wave without an imbeded low.
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545. quakeman55 7:01 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting lovejessicaa9:

Cool, did you eat it? I ate a couple last time that happened. LOL
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546. Orcasystems 7:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
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547. CybrTeddy 7:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Ours new station says we have Emily...

That doesn't seem accurate.


We 100% do not have Emily, they probably meant to say 'if they find a closed circulation we have tropical storm Emily'
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548. NICycloneChaser 7:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:
Well, recon has ignored that wind direction swing and continued northwest. With the swing and a pressure reading of 1008mb, that is a tad annoying.


Hold the boat, pressure still dropping, they perhaps haven't reached the centre just yet.
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549. Seflhurricane 7:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Ours new station says we have Emily...

That doesn't seem accurate.
arent you in north carolina ???
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550. quakeman55 7:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Ours new station says we have Emily...

That doesn't seem accurate.

Meh, what do they know...they probably don't even know of this website. lol
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551. HurricaneDean07 7:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Recon Finding 1007 MB pressure near the center...
Pressure dropping, winds rising...

Things left on the check list:
Closed low confirmed
Organization
Blow up of convection of the center
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