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Did Hurricane Wilma have 209 mph sustained winds?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:00 PM GMT on April 28, 2012 +51
At last week's 30th Conference on Hurricanes and Tropical Meteorology of the American Meteorological Society, Dr. Eric Uhlhorn of NOAA's Hurricane Research Division presented a poster that looked at the relationship between surface winds measured by the SFMR instrument and flight-level winds in two Category 5 storms. Hurricane Hunter flights done into Category 5 Supertyphoon Megi (17 October 2010) and Category 5 Hurricane Felix (03 September 2007) found that the surface winds measured by SFMR were greater than those measured at flight level (10,000 feet.) Usually, surface winds in a hurricane are 10 - 15% less than at 10,000 feet, but he showed that in super-intense Category 5 storms with small eyes, the dynamics of these situations may generate surface winds that are as strong or stronger than those found at 10,000 feet. He extrapolated this statistical relationship (using the inertial stability measured at flight level) to Hurricane Wilma of 2005, which was the strongest hurricane on record (882 mb), but was not observed by the SFMR. He estimated that the maximum wind averaged around the eyewall in Wilma at peak intensity could have been 209 mph, plus or minus 20 mph--so conceivably as high as 229 mph, with gusts to 270 mph. Yowza. That's well in excess of the 200 mph minimum wind speed a top end EF-5 tornado has. The Joplin, Missouri EF-5 tornado of May 22, 2011 had winds estimated at 225 - 250 mph. That tornado ripped pavement from the ground, leveled buildings to the concrete slabs they were built on, and killed 161 people. It's not a pretty thought to consider what Wilma would have done to Cancun, Key West, or Fort Myers had the hurricane hit with sustained winds of what the Joplin tornado had.


Figure 1. Hurricane Wilma's pinhole eye as seen at 8:22 a.m. CDT Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2005, by the crew aboard NASA's international space station as the complex flew 222 miles above the storm. At the time, Wilma was the strongest Atlantic hurricane in history, with a central pressure of 882 mb and sustained surface winds estimated at 185 mph. The storm was located in the Caribbean Sea, 340 miles southeast of Cozumel, Mexico. Image source: NASA's Space Photo Gallery.


Figure 2. Damage in Joplin, Missouri after the EF-5 tornado of May 22, 2011. Image credit: wunderphotographer thebige.

Official all-time strongest winds in an Atlantic hurricane: 190 mph
The official record for strongest winds in an Atlantic hurricane is 190 mph, for Hurricane Allen of 1980 as it was entering the Gulf of Mexico, and for Hurricane Camille of 1969, as it was making landfall in Pass Christian, Mississippi. In Dr. Bob Sheets' and Jack Williams' book, Hurricane Watch, they recount the Hurricane Hunters flight into Camile as the hurricane reached peak intensity: On Sunday afternoon, August 17, and Air Force C-130 piloted by Marvin Little penetrated Camille's eye and measured a pressure of 26.62 inches of mercury. "Just as we were nearing the eyewall cloud we suddenly broke into a clear area and could see the sea surface below," the copilot, Robert Lee Clark, wrote in 1982. "What a sight! Although everyone on the crew was experienced except me, no one had seen the wind whip the sea like that before...Instead of the green and white splotches normally found in a storm, the sea surface was in deep furrows running along the wind direction....The velocity was beyond the descriptions used in our training and far beyond anything we had ever seen." So, the 190 mph winds of Camille were an estimate that was off the scale from anything that had ever been observed in the past. The books that the Hurricane Hunters carried, filled with photos of the sea state at various wind speeds, only goes up to 150 mph (Figure 2). I still used this book to estimate surface winds when I flew with the Hurricane Hunters in the late 1980s, and the books are still carried on the planes today. In the two Category 5 hurricanes I flew into, Hugo and Gilbert, I never observed the furrowing effect referred to above. Gilbert had surface winds estimated at 175 mph based on what we measured at flight level, so I believe the 190 mph wind estimate in Camille may be reasonable.


Figure 3. Appearance of the sea surface in winds of 130 knots (150 mph). Image credit: Wind Estimations from Aerial Observations of Sea Conditions (1954), by Charlie Neumann.


Figure 4. Radar image of Hurricane Camille taken at 22:15 UTC August 17, 1969, a few hours before landfall in Mississippi. At the time, Camille had the highest sustained winds of any Atlantic hurricane in history--190 mph.

The infamous hurricane hunter flight into Wilma during its rapid intensification
While I was at last week's conference, I had a conversation with Rich Henning, a flight meteorologist for NOAA's Hurricane Hunters, who served for many years as a Air Reconnaissance Weather Officer (ARWO) for the Air Force Hurricane Hunters. Rich told me the story of the Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission into Hurricane Wilma in the early morning hours of October 19, 2005, as Wilma entered its explosive deepening phase. The previous airplane, which had departed Category 1 Wilma six hours previously, flew through Wilma at an altitude of 5,000 feet. They measured a central pressure of 954 mb when they departed the eye at 23:10 UTC. The crew of the new plane assumed that the hurricane, though intensifying, was probably not a major hurricane, and decided that they would also go in at 5,000 feet. Winds outside the eyewall were less than hurricane force, so this seemed like a reasonable assumption. Once the airplane hit the eyewall, they realized their mistake. Flight level winds quickly rose to 186 mph, far in excess of Category 5 strength, and severe turbulence rocked the aircraft. The aircraft was keeping a constant pressure altitude to maintain their height above the ocean during the penetration, but the area of low pressure at Wilma's center was so intense that the airplane descended at over 1,000 feet per minute during the penetration in order to maintain a constant pressure altitude. By they time they punched into the incredibly tiny 4-mile wide eye, which had a central pressure of just 901 mb at 04:32 UTC, the plane was at a dangerously low altitude of 1,500 feet--not a good idea in a Category 5 hurricane. The pilot ordered an immediate climb, and the plane exited the other side of Wilma's eyewall at an altitude of 10,000 feet. They maintained this altitude for the remainder of the flight. During their next pass through the eye at 06:11 UTC, the diameter of the eye had shrunk to an incredibly tiny two miles--the smallest hurricane eye ever measured. During their third and final pass through the eye at 0801 UTC, a dropsonde found a central pressure of 882 mb--the lowest pressure ever observed in an Atlantic hurricane. In the span of just 24 hours, Wilma had intensified from a 70 mph tropical storm to a 175 mph category 5 hurricane--an unprecedented event for an Atlantic hurricane. Since the pressure was still falling, it is likely that Wilma became even stronger after the mission departed.

I'll have a new post by Tuesday at the latest.

Jeff Masters
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1751. weatherh98 1:17 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Really needs a warning.


Rotation is wayyyyyyy to broad
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1752. hurricanehunter27 1:18 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
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1753. bappit 1:18 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Think he was joking.

I do agree with you, but if we are wrong he might as well have been. Just so long we don't get this over and over again.
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1754. weatherh98 1:19 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Notice that the Greensburg storm is almost done
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1755. MAweatherboy1 1:20 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:


BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WICHITA KS
819 PM CDT MON APR 30 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WICHITA HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
HARPER COUNTY IN SOUTH CENTRAL KANSAS...

* UNTIL 915 PM CDT

* AT 815 PM CDT...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
TORNADO WAS LOCATED 6 MILES NORTH OF AMORITA...AND MOVING NORTHEAST
AT 20 MPH.

HAZARD...DEVELOPING TORNADO AND QUARTER SIZE HAIL.

SOURCE...RADAR INDICATED ROTATION.

IMPACT...SIGNIFICANT HOUSE AND BUILDING DAMAGE POSSIBLE. MOBILE
HOMES COMPLETELY DESTROYED IF HIT. SOME TREES UPROOTED OR
SNAPPED. VEHICLES WILL LIKELY BE THROWN BY TORNADIC WINDS.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
ANTHONY...WALDRON...ATTICA...CORWIN AND CRYSTAL SPRINGS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THIS TORNADO WARNING REPLACES THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING THAT
WAS IN EFFECT FOR THE SAME AREA.

&&

LAT...LON 3700 9836 3710 9836 3713 9835 3736 9810
3709 9787 3699 9810 3699 9835
TIME...MOT...LOC 0119Z 236DEG 19KT 3703 9828

TORNADO...RADAR INDICATED
HAIL...1.00IN

$$

SMITH
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1756. hurricanehunter27 1:20 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:


Rotation is wayyyyyyy to broad
Yah sure that is why it was just tornado warned.
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1757. weatherh98 1:20 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:


Although it has tightened up
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1758. MAweatherboy1 1:21 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:
Notice that the Greensburg storm is almost done

Greensburg's about to take another hard hit from a line of storms... Non tornadic ones, thankfully, but maybe some damaging winds
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1759. weatherh98 1:21 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Yah sure that is why it was just tornado warned.


Just took note that it tightened up, it's still not high-fantastical
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1760. jeffs713 1:21 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:


Rotation is wayyyyyyy to broad

Yeah, its too broad. If it tightens up, it will be a monster. But that is a big "if".
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1761. hurricanehunter27 1:22 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Strongest of the day.
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1762. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:22 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
I think this recent unfolding of events has taken a lot of people by surprise. Mesoscale Analysis would suggest the most favorable area for tornadoes is in the Texas Panhandle, yet the bulk of the activity is occurring in southern portions of Kansas. A combination of strong low-level wind shear and the storms being in a favorable area for local enhancement of helicity values/vorticity is aiding in tornadogenesis, but a lack of strong upper level wind shear and higher instability is preventing these storms from keeping tornadoes on the ground for a prolonged period of time.
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1763. weatherh98 1:22 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Greensburg's about to take another hard hit from a line of storms... Non tornadic ones, thankfully, but maybe some damaging winds


Yup linear storms are moving in
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1764. MAweatherboy1 1:23 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Totally unrelated storm:

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TULSA OK
813 PM CDT MON APR 30 2012

OKC105-010145-
/O.CON.KTSA.TO.W.0015.000000T0000Z-120501T0145Z/
NOWATA OK-
813 PM CDT MON APR 30 2012

...TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 845 PM CDT FOR SOUTHERN
NOWATA COUNTY...

AT 809 PM CDT...A TORNADO WAS LOCATED ABOUT 4 MILES WEST OF
NOWATA...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 5 MPH. BRIEF TORNADO TOUCHDOWNS HAVE
BEEN REPORTED
.

SOME LOCATIONS IN OR NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM INCLUDE...NOWATA.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IF YOU ARE NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM...TAKE COVER NOW! IF NO
UNDERGROUND SHELTER IS AVAILABLE MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE
LOWEST FLOOR. MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES SHOULD BE ABANDONED FOR MORE
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. AVOID WINDOWS!

IF NO UNDERGROUND SHELTER IS AVAILABLE MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON
THE LOWEST FLOOR. MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES SHOULD BE ABANDONED FOR
MORE SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. AVOID WINDOWS!

&&

LAT...LON 3685 9543 3660 9543 3668 9573 3673 9576
TIME...MOT...LOC 0112Z 245DEG 5KT 3671 9571

$$

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1765. MAweatherboy1 1:24 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Strongest of the day.

Still just a tad broad... If that tightens up then look out.
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1766. weatherh98 1:25 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Strongest of the day.


Now that's more than likely a tornado/ funnel
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1767. Ameister12 1:26 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
The supercell heading for Anthony is very impressive.
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1768. weatherh98 1:32 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting Ameister12:
The supercell heading for Anthony is very impressive.


I that a debree ball, stronger now
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1769. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:33 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Are we talking about the same Anthony here? Doesn't look impressive at all to me.

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1770. sunlinepr 1:34 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
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1771. weatherh98 1:35 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are we talking about the same Anthony here? Doesn't look impressive at all to me.



The other maps make it look a ton worse lol

I don't have GRLEVEL3
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1772. Ameister12 1:35 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are we talking about the same Anthony here? Doesn't look impressive at all to me.


It was rather impressive not long ago, but it obviously weakened now.
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1773. MAweatherboy1 1:35 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Are we talking about the same Anthony here? Doesn't look impressive at all to me.


It fell apart...

Quoting sunlinepr:


Nice dose of rain on the way for me tomorrow
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1774. MAweatherboy1 1:38 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
It's very close to the radar site so it's hard to tell but the storm near Medford looks to be very strong
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1775. Ameister12 1:40 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Wow!
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1776. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:41 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
GRlevel2 and GRlevel3 often show signatures to be more severe than they usually are because those two radar programs "correct" the data received to increase readability. That's why they are usually used by storm chasers, especially GRlevel3.

GR2Analyst on the other hand reads raw data, which is why you could say it looks messy.

That's your lesson for tonight.
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1777. weatherh98 1:42 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
We need a standard inflow outflow map
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1778. bappit 1:43 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
As Joe Bastardi has taught us, you don't have to be right. You just have to sound good.
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1779. weatherh98 1:43 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
GRlevel2 and GRlevel3 often show signatures to be more severe than they usually are because those two radar programs "correct" the data received to increase readability. That's why they are usually used by storm chasers, especially GRlevel3.

GR2Analyst on the other hand reads raw data, which is why you could say it looks messy.

That's your lesson for tonight.


Which is "better" in terms of accuracy
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1780. hurricanehunter27 1:44 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Medford storm has had fantastic rotation with TVS for a while now.
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1781. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:44 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Come on....get out of close range...



Quoting weatherh98:


Which is "better"

That is up to the user ;)

As for me, I prefer GR2Analyst.
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1782. hurricanehunter27 1:46 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
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1783. weatherh98 1:46 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Come on....get out of close range...




That is up to the user ;)

As for me, I prefer GR2Analyst.


That's what I figured, btw that map looks sick
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1784. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:49 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
This does not look good at all.

Still waiting for it to get away from the radar site.

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1785. hurricanehunter27 1:49 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
This is rare.
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1786. HurricaneTracker01 1:49 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
LARGE TORNADO on the ground heading for Medford
http://kfor.com/on-air/live-streaming/
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1787. sunlinepr 1:50 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
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1788. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:51 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
There is a violent tornado on the ground right now headed towards Medford.
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1789. hurricanehunter27 1:53 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Good lord this is rare.
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1790. weatherh98 1:54 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
There is a violent tornado on the ground right now headed towards Medford.


Don't say violent people will take it out of context
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1791. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:54 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
This is not normal.

This is a very violent and dangerous tornado.

We have a pink TVS.

Oh no.

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1792. gordydunnot 1:56 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Wow that's a nasty line developing in the central US, was that forecast-ed.
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1793. Ameister12 1:56 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Possible power flashes near Medford. Extremely dangerous situation for Medford.
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1794. weatherman321 1:57 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
wow.. be careful medford... that velocity is serious..
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1795. weatherh98 1:57 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
This is not normal.

This is a very violent and dangerous tornado.

We have a pink TVS.

Oh no.



Good Lord!!!
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1796. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:58 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Everybody in Medford and Clyde needs to be underground right now. There is a large and extremely dangerous tornado that has been causing power flashes as reported by storm chasers.

The particular storm chasers here said he was getting 85 mph winds 6 miles away from the tornado.

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1797. hurricanehunter27 1:59 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
This is not normal.

This is a very violent and dangerous tornado.

We have a pink TVS.

Oh no.

These are you EF3+ type signatures.
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1798. evilpenguinshan 1:59 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    


just nasty.
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1799. fishcop 1:59 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
hello fellow weather geeks - June 1 coming up!
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1800. hurricanehunter27 2:00 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Its held purple TVS for 2 frames its no mistake now.
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1801. hurricanehunter27 2:00 AM GMT on May 01, 2012    
Quoting evilpenguinshan:


just nasty.
Its so strong its moving NW?!?!
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