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Another wild night in Tornado Alley
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 11:40 AM GMT on May 06, 2007 +6
The sirens sounded two more times in tornado-ravaged Greensburg, Kansas last night, as two more twisters tore through the county. However, both tornadoes missed populated areas, as did most of the approximately 75 tornadoes that touched down yesterday. The action should quiet down considerably today; the Storm Prediction Center (SPC) has placed most of Kansas and Nebraska under its "Slight Risk" area for severe weather. Sweetwater, Oklahoma received significant damage from a tornado last night, and we've saved 300 Kb animations of the radar reflectivity and Doppler velocities of the tornado.

It will take a long time for Greensburg to recover from Friday's tornado. To get an idea of the scale of devastation, see the aerial photos posted by the Wichita Eagle. Damage surveys are not yet complete on the tornado, but photos I've seen of the destruction show damage consistent with EF4 winds(168-199 mph). It is possible the storm was an EF5 (winds more than 200 mph). The nine deaths from the tornado bring the U.S. tornado death toll to 68 so far this year, two more than the toll for all of last year.

We've saved some extraordinary 1 Mb animations of the radar reflectivity and Doppler velocities of the tornado. I asked wunderground meteorologist and tornado expert Rob Carver to comment on what's going on in the animations, and here was his analysis:

This was likely an example of cyclic mesocyclogenesis. In a nutshell, the rear-flank downdraft surges out, wraps around and occludes the mesocyclone (Meso A for short). Meso A then veers to the left and dies, this is why tornado family members curve to the left as they dissipate. While Meso A is dying, a new meso spins up and becomes the dominant meso. Now, while I've seen plenty of simulated cyclic cases where the hook retreats when Meso A occludes, I don't think I've seen anything as dramatic.



Figure 1. Radar image of the storm that spawned the Greensburg, KS tornado of May 4, 2007, showing the clearly defined hook echo associated with the twister.

Coastal Carolina storm
The latest (8pm EDT) computer forecast models continue to show a moderately strong coastal storm developing several hundred miles southeast of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, on Monday. The storm will be extratropical in nature when it forms. We'll have a lot of time to watch the storm, as it is expected to meander offshore for five days and gradually weaken. Water temperatures are 22-23 C off of the coast, which may be warm enough to allow the low to acquire some subtropical characteristics and become the season's first named storm. The models are hinting that the storm could remain over water long enough for this to happen, and I put the odds of a Subtropical Storm Andrea forming late this week at about 20%.

Wunderblogger Mike Theiss was out chasing yesterday and caught some of the storms; be sure to tune into his blog over the next few days to read his chase accounts. Stormchaser Dan Robinson posted some video stills of the Greensburg tornado.

Jeff Masters
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451. Drakoen 10:40 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Posted By: Skyepony at 10:36 PM GMT on May 06, 2007.

canadian gem model


interesting has it stregthing with pressure typically seen in a Cat 1 hurricane
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452. kmanislander 10:41 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Hi all

Anyone on living near Pembroke Pines ?
My wife's Mom and sister live there
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453. Drakoen 10:42 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Posted By: Skyepony at 10:39 PM GMT on May 06, 2007.

RL~ That would be my guess..

ECMWF

north Florida. Now if only it would go 100 miles to the South lol.
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454. RL3AO 10:44 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
There is some mid-level rotation.

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456. Skyepony (Mod) 10:45 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
A nearby buoy

Wind Direction (WDIR): NNE ( 20 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 36.9 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 46.6 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 16.1 ft
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.82 in
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458. Skyepony (Mod) 10:50 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
NFL wasn't my guess, I was agreeing with RL... The ECMWF ~ I was just throwing not so run of the mill model runs out there as I was looking at them. That one stands alone with it's precipitation free low left on the gulf after it has it crossing FL.
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459. Drakoen 10:51 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
I just wanna see what happens as it moves to the Southwest.
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460. kmanislander 10:51 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
who stretched the blog ??
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461. HurricaneRoman 10:52 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
I live like 10 miles form pembroke pines.... the storm isnt here yet but it should be getting to us soon
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462. Drakoen 10:52 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
I will be interested to see what the NHC says at 8:00 pm on the current situation with the system. Remember guys its not even at invest yet.
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463. kmanislander 10:53 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Thanks HR

I gave them a call and they are now following developments
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464. Skyepony (Mod) 10:53 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
STL~ The ESPI has dropped like a rock this week to -1.15 from the -.20s, lowest so far with this ENSO switch. We should be seeing ENSO cool a good bit in the next few weeks.
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465. RL3AO 10:54 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Posted By: kmanislander at 5:51 PM CDT on May 06, 2007.
who stretched the blog ??


I dont see any pics wider that 640.
467. kmanislander 10:55 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
RL340

I have to scroll left to right to read entries. Wasn't that way a while ago
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468. leelee75k 10:57 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
hi all,

in sunrise, near tamarac, got dark for a few minutes, a little rain but nothing serious or intense. heavier clouds are to the west of my location heading south.
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469. Bamatracker 10:57 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
hey kman...put it on showing 50 comments it it should fix ya
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471. Skyepony (Mod) 11:00 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
jp ~ no problem with the SSD site here.
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472. V26R 11:00 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Kman I have the same on my screen too
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473. kmanislander 11:02 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Thanks Bama/STL

That fixed it. Didn't realise I had it set to show all !!
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474. kmanislander 11:02 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
V26R

Change the setting as suggested. Worked for me
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475. MissBennet 11:03 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Posted By: Bamatracker

booooooooooo!!!! the blog is stretched!!


weathersp <--- his/her fault!

Please, please fix your pic, weathersp
476. V26R 11:04 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Just did it
Man that is a pain!
Thanks Guys
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477. StormJunkie 11:04 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
WV SE Low

Lot of dry air in there right now.
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478. DocBen 11:04 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
That big storm over FL - could it go off-shore and develop?
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479. Drakoen 11:05 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
i think that low by the Carolinas is taking in dry air but the models still say that it will develop.
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480. HurricaneRoman 11:05 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
I see thunder and lightning and dark skies but the storm isnt close enough yet... I think its gonna come right over me.... i'll tell u guys if anything happens
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481. V26R 11:06 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Just the bottm edge of a trough moving south
Would take alot of things to happen to get those Boomers to form into anything special
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482. V26R 11:07 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Hey Roman you should get your camera out and get some Pix
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483. StormJunkie 11:09 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Evening all ☺

Drak, I think once it gets in lower shear it will be able to create more moisture. It is just now getting near some reasonably warm SSTs in the Gulf Stream and the shear should drop off over the next 24 or so.
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485. Skyepony (Mod) 11:11 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
STL~ Looked at that not 10 mins ago, they just added that blue square.
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486. V26R 11:13 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Think you guys are jumping the gun on this one
Air temps are still too cool out that way for anything to blow up
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487. RL3AO 11:13 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Woohoo! Blue square!
488. StormJunkie 11:13 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Good to see ya skye and stl

I have been checking that on and off, but that is the first I saw of the blue square....
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489. melwerle 11:13 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
ok - i'm not educated with the blue square - meaning please? Sorry - trying to catch up with the learning curve....
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490. Bamatracker 11:15 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
nooooooooo........boooooooooooo!!! Blue squares bad!!!
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491. Bamatracker 11:16 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
meaning .4 to .7% chance of tropical development in that area
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492. StormJunkie 11:16 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
mel it is a cyclone genesis map. I think blue is like .6% chance of something forming...lol
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493. Tazmanian 11:17 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT SUN MAY 06 2007

FROM A 1012 MB SFC LOW NEAR
THE OUTER BANK TO SOUTH GEORGIA
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495. Patrap 11:17 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
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496. V26R 11:19 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Thats gotta be a record JP
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497. RL3AO 11:21 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Wheres the cyclone genesis probabilty page located?
498. StormJunkie 11:22 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
RL, you can find it under the model pages listed here. Lots of other good links there too.
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499. melwerle 11:23 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
ok - that's not good...i keep looking at the different scenarios and a bunch of them keep showing it hitting georgia dead on. hmmm...keep it to RAIN only. I am not at all ready for anything other than a bit of rain and wind right now!

Time to rig the sailboat perhaps and be like Gary Sinese in Forest Gump...
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500. MTJax 11:24 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
Greetings fellow bloggers.
You guys are killin me. :)
There are no tropical storms/hurricanes forming off the South East. The air, water, winds, pressure, and temperatures do not support any theory in these areas. The storms will come soon enough.
501. HurricaneFCast 11:24 PM GMT on May 06, 2007    
V26R- The weather channel is talking about it right now, They said it's going to form, they are talking to hurricane experts right now, and they are pondering whether it will be tropical or subtropical. It's already warm-core, as Micheal stated, so i believe it will be tropical. It's not the air temp that matters either... it's the water temp(warm enough where it is), moisture content(plenty), low vertical wind shear(it's weakening), and of course, the front itself has formed the low, which is in an environment that has the ability for tropical cyclogenesis. There ya go. Keep an eye on this one for all of you in Florida, Georgia or the Carolinas. I myself am in Florida, Near the Georgia border, we need this rain, the fire in Ware County fire is horrible, we need rain now.
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